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Why a lot of people hates current Karma state ? She is one of the funniest champs on LOL !

StormBladeMaster·7/4/2019, 7:24:57 PM·2 votes·2,773 views

I don't know the old karma so i don't miss it but i know she used to have a shieldbomb and her W could be used on her teammate.

But she is so polyvalent. She can be top, mid or support and even jungle but her passive don't trigger on monster which is a little bit sad.

I love to play Karma top with and klepto, it's so funny to poke, harass, regen and root and still deal big dmg.

I love to play Karma supp with and shield all the team to put ardent on everyone, poking on lane, shielding...

I love to play Karma mid with a lot of ap and delete someone with RQ and build 45% cdr to always have RQ.

I propose to buff her a little bit on lategame, it's shouldnt make her broken because it's will be very lategame. Makes karma more like Kayle.

**At lvl 18, Mantra don't have CD anymore. All her basics spells are enchanted by mantra. **

Karma reach the state of GODNESS OF IONIA and all of her spells become powerful.

It's will be even more funny to play Karma and reach lategame like this.

Make also her passive trigger on big monster so she can jungle properly. A true polyvalent champ that can do everything.

<3 Karma

17 Comments

Infernape7/4/2019, 7:26:25 PM3 votes

Because Karma top is unfun to play against as a melee champion?

Blåsigt7/4/2019, 7:26:59 PM3 votes

Karma is low key op - I have no idea why people complain about her.

Death by Glamour7/4/2019, 7:27:20 PM2 votes

because some of us miss old karma, both the kit and the look

2Blitz1Crank7/4/2019, 7:33:49 PM1 votes

Fun champion to play != Well designed champion

Pyke for example was fun to play on every lane. But for every opponent it was frustrating as hell. He just pushed his lane and went roaming or killed you inlane 24/7.

I literally had a game where karma (my team) fought 4 people for about 2 minutes. She then ran away, leaving everyone low hp, for the sole reason that she had no mana. She deals absurd dmg, has insane sustain, mobility and cc while surving longer than most tanks in late game.

I also strongly disagree with the lvl 18 Buff. This would be the most broken shit ever in the history of league. Kayle just gets one ability upgraded, not all. Maybe if you could choose one, but even that could be really broken as well.

Besides that, I think karma is really fun too, just a little too strong.

Illabethe7/5/2019, 5:03:13 AM1 votes

Let's assume for a second that you aren't playing Karma in some sub-win rate manner (Iceborne falls off, and often doesn't do the job it's supposed to in decent elo play anymore) and that you're not just shield spamming to proc Ardent;

-If you try to use Karma's W, the game's pace atm has really made it hard to stay alive long enough for the second tick to hit. 2 Seconds is a long time in terms of a duel, and most champions her W was designed to counter, often kill her before that 2 seconds is up.

-If you try to poke Q, the damage is underwhelming for the fact that her kit really lacks sustained dps (especially if on Iceborne). Also, its cooldown is actually longer than comparable skills on other mages. She can simply get outspammed in between shots.

In other words, the world around Karma has been buffed so much, that the only "Win" Agency she has left is mostly as a shield spammer, or an annoying snowball-block in top lane.

I thought she was okay, too, until they nerfed Celerity and took away its AP gains from move speed. I played her as a dueler then. I could outplay a LOT of people. After the AP scaling was taken away and some of Q's damage was taken to compensate for a larger aoe, I'm not liking playing her that way anymore. The tradeoffs just killed dueling Karma, unless it's that tiny niche tank top Karma.

I don't find team shielding or R> Q as a deterrent "fun." That's not using her kit as intended.

ZapMyHeart7/5/2019, 6:42:41 PM1 votes

She's simply a jack of all trades, which means she can do everything, but everything she does is subpar to everyone else who excels at that particular role.

Top: Any smart top player will bide their time and just play safe until they can outscale her.

Mid: Falls off late game and becomes a secondary support.

Support: Other support does every support thing she does better.

The only thing powerful about her is her RE because of her teamfight capabilities. Remove any part of that, she is pretty garbage during teamfights. Basically, all her power is relegated into that Mantra form, meaning the rest of her kit is meh.

Current Karma represent a lot of things that people don't like: 1) Poor kit cohesion (see above) 2) Poor treatment of the mains community 3) Poor kit balance 4) Bland lore 5) Overbuffed compensation due to 1)

Ralanr7/5/2019, 8:58:21 PM1 votes

I just hate being kited endlessly as an immobile champion and being unable to escape her tether.

2gudaiya1/25/2020, 2:39:42 PM1 votes

because she is anti-fun when you play against her. can't poke cause she'll shield. can't engage cause she'll snare. can't run cause she'll hadouken. and she can give the moves steroids.