Safe to say Riot has no idea what they're doing

Ramza Paradise·Jan 20, 2015·5 votes·1,027 views

New jungle, strategic diversity!

Same junglers picked. (Lee, WW, Jarvan, pick ban rek'sai) Tank junglers still bad.

Mages too strong! Too much mana! Syndra destroyed. Ziggs destroyed. Mana regen items inefficient.

Zed pick ban every game. Diverse! Wonder why he's so good now? Good clear, no mana problems, low cooldown and better poke than mana mages?

It's okay though, Galio and Urgot got their re-works.

Never mind, still useless. Especially poor Galio.

Maybe next season?

9 Comments

Pika310Jan 20, 20153 votes

item 3070 Sona

ScurvyNaveJan 20, 20151 votes

^ nough said

UberAffeJan 20, 20151 votes

Amumu is strong

ErockandrollJan 20, 20151 votes

Syndra's getting Destroyed with DFG, don't pin it on the other Mages. Just return some of the MR that Grail lost and boom, it would be good again.

Some Tank Junglers can do good. I do remember Getting whooped by a Nunu because he became unkillable and was constantly securing Dragon. I Think Sejuani is decent, decent Engage.

Ramza ParadiseJan 20, 20152 votes

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Syndra's getting Destroyed with DFG, don't pin it on the other Mages. Just return some of the MR that Grail lost and boom, it would be good again.

Some Tank Junglers can do good. I do remember Getting whooped by a Nunu because he became unkillable and was constantly securing Dragon. I Think Sejuani is decent, decent Engage.

There's a difference between "can be good" and "always good". Nunu is bad in the majority of matches, same with Sejuani.

J4 and Lee have similar engage and clear better, do more damage, and can be tanky. Damage > Tankiness in this meta, nothing changed.

StoningtonJan 20, 20151 votes

Yeah. There was quite a bit of jungle diversity when you could soft leash the monsters easily. Now, there isn't so much.

Edit: Infact, because you only get mana back from taking damage, off meta junglers like Malzahar or Zyra can't jungle nearly as well.

Kuroi86Jan 20, 20151 votes

Tank junglers still bad.

Chogath Malphite Nautilus Have managed clearing with all three with relative ease. Avoid getting ganked in the jungle and farm into six, then gank every time your ult is up. Focus on farming your items and ganking whenever you see a perfect opportunity. Late game turn into a Raid Boss.

Zed pick ban every game.

Just gonna put this right here.

One of the other character classes we're looking at in 5.2 in Assassins. Some assassins have top tier burst potential that is loaded onto high reliability spells (think Akali or Fizz here) and don't have enough real weaknesses to compensate. Others may simply be too strong along a variety of dimensions; Zed being one of the best 1v1 champions in the game and an extremely efficient tower diver helps make him a super split pusher. However, him having such strong tower killing statistics (e.g. AS, bonus AD from W passive) on top of that makes for an overwhelming combination. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/GinIa17t-52-live-gameplay-patch-forecast

Miku Lv99Jan 20, 20151 votes

I wouldn't say it's quite safe to say. All of these horribly balanced patches could just be part of a grand scheme that's eventually going to lead to a much better game than we had before.

Although it does seem to me that the game is probably just going to keep getting worse from now on. It was one thing to do a bunch of little tweaks, but then it became overly contrived to fix a bunch of the issues that arose from those. Now the new jungle is so horribly designed that I don't think there's any way to make junglers well-balanced without doing something ridiculously contrived, like making it so that a whole lot of champions are artificially given abilities that do increased damage to monsters or something like that. And then, at the end of the day, it's still not as good as the old jungle was. And those random new bonuses you can get in the jungle just seem so poorly done that they can almost entirely only make things worse.

And then most of the junglers and mid lane mages aren't any good anymore. And they've nerfed Sona into the ground when there were barely any good supports to choose from already. So ADC and top are the only lanes left that seem to have a good number of viable options at this point. That's kinda ridiculous.