What the boards define as "balance"

Bladerunner7777··71 votes·4,247 views

What? This champion has been strong for a patch or two?

Needs to be deleted. Riot is stupid for designing them in the first place.

champion gets a numbers nerf and returns to a 50% winrate

people stop complaining

boards find a new champion that needs to be "deleted"

112 Comments

Shadòw43 votes

srsly just delete Yasuo

Yooba6 votes

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srsly just delete Yasuo

86 games on Syndra and still couldn't reach diamond. You're trash dude lmfao

Jayblaze26 votes

People that only play yasuo aka master yi 2.0 are not really better than trash either, and are even trashier when their summoner name relate to yasuo

Yooba1 votes

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Malicious Metal51 votes

You're the kind of guy that gives Yasuo a bad name. You're rude, an ass and just have to be offensive.

Good job m8, that's how you stop people from hating Yasuo

Yooba5 votes

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You're the kind of guy that gives Yasuo a bad name. You're rude, an ass and just have to be offensive.

Good job m8, that's how you stop people from hating Yasuo

No. People talk shit about Yasuo players and you expect me to be nice to them? That's not how it works.

Malicious Metal47 votes

That's EXACTLY how it works. Prove them wrong instead of affirming the stereotype.

Yooba5 votes

Riot deleted my other comment and gave me a warning because I called that guy gold 5 0 LP or whatever. But he is allowed to say that I'm trash because I play Yasuo even though I'm like 2 tiers higher than him. Nice work Riot. I fucking love it.

legionnaire9921 votes

... yasuo player like you... you know your the reason he hated right.

Big Lincoln4 votes

because he climbed ranks and you didn't?

what point are you making here

General Esdeath 18 votes

"HEY LOOK GUYS! HE'S A HIGHER ELO! THAT MEANS HE'S ALWAYS RIGHT! EVEN ABOUT THINGS THAT INVOLVE PERSONALITY AND TOXICITY!"

you right now

Big Lincoln2 votes

talking in all caps is not an argument

General Esdeath 5 votes

Then why did you do it? :^)

DeathBot6664 votes

BECAUSE WORDS IN CAPS LOOK COOLER.

Catastrop9 votes

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Riot deleted my other comment and gave me a warning because I called that guy gold 5 0 LP or whatever. But he is allowed to say that I'm trash because I play Yasuo even though I'm like 2 tiers higher than him.

There's being trash at the game and then there's being trash. Funnily enough, the latter does not know the distinction.

Yooba4 votes

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There's being trash at the game and then there's being trash. Funnily enough, the latter does not know the distinction.

It's funny because both options suit you perfectly.

Schàdenfreude5 votes

I'm really sorry but you're just throwing insults at others and not really doing anything else. That and you got insulted by someone making a shallow QQ comment on Yasuo. Really?

Not only that, you got roasted pretty hard lmao.

Edge of Daybreak2 votes

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That's EXACTLY how it works. Prove them wrong instead of affirming the stereotype.

You can't really change the mentality as a single person whether you are a jackass or not. Sure not being a dick helps but once people label something they are almost always going to see it that way regardless of what experiences they have in game or on boards. As much as people talk about toxic players playing certain champions I rarely actually see those players being toxic. Usually it's the other people flaming them for their picks. which over time actually makes those people respond negatively to them. I used to have people call me all kinds of things for playing kassadin back when he was broken yet I rarely spoke in chat except to compliment people or say GG.

Chembaron Yamada10 votes

"Be the change you want to see in the world."

  • Ghandi -

Yes, you probably won't be able to change someones mind. But at least you can try.

BeatzBoyFTW4 votes

You don't even main Vayne, yet you talked shit to me out of the blue.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/EK9T7cFc-riot-you-cant-keep-quiet-forever-whats-your-insight-about-vayne-needing-nerfs

That's not how it works either.

Yooba3 votes

Anyone who whines about vayne is bad

Anyone who is upset about that singed support player being banned is bad

Anyone who says delete X champ is bad

It's not personal

BeatzBoyFTW6 votes

First, I was only asking for opinions whether she needs nerfs or not with good reasons, that's all. That's why I asked for insights.

Second, I support the fact that the banned on Singed Support is justified.

Third, I rather choose nerf instead of delete, cz the latter is just too immature.

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

"Too many duo games, MMR might be inaccurate." Now we know how you reached diamond :^)

Yooba1 votes

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"Too many duo games, MMR might be inaccurate." Now we know how you reached diamond :^)

Check my KDA on every champion you moron. I carried most of the games on Renekton.

Edit: You have 552 wins 527 losses and still lower than me. That's pathetic.

Maximum Morde16 votes

Being an asshole isn't how you get people to like you, with the exception of attracting Catholic priests.

Totally worth my incoming forum perma.

Dabrick014 votes

Just wanted to pop in and say that I'm sorry.

Anyone with any rendition of Yasuo in their name is bound to be trouble.

I don't play Yasuo much anymore, but I'd like to think that I am a good person who plays Yasuo

Keti1 votes

weird you have the yasuo name when you main renekton

Yooba2 votes

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weird you have the yasuo name when you main renekton

The best champ I play is Renekton, but my favorite champ is Yasuo. Not really hard to figure out

Hunted90002 votes

Why don't people respect that yasuo takes some sort of skill.

Shadòw1 votes

not saying that but he is just annoying and frustrating to play against

i would rather toast my dick than lane against that shit

Hunted90001 votes

I usually find that all the people who don't like yasuo at all never played him seriously. Usually when I lose against a yasuo its because he plain outplayed me and i respect it and usually love it because yasuo is such an exciting lane for me whether I'm am or against him. The only frustrating lane is having him top, but that applies to all fighters that top lane because top is usually a slow, snowball lane and they break the meta with their crazy early damage.

Shadòw1 votes

i have him lvl5 actually.

doesn't change the fact that i hate playing against him

Silmaril18 votes

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What? This champion is strong for a patch or two?

Needs to be deleted. Riot is stupid for designing them in the first place.

champion gets a numbers nerf and returns to a 50% winrate

people stop complaining

boards find a new champion that needs to be "deleted"

Nah, that's not really how boards operates on a general level. In my experience it's more split up by class how good a winrate a champion needs to be considered "overpowered" by Boards.

Tanks: 58% Supports: 57% Mages: 55-56% Bruisers:54-55% Ranged solo laners: 46% ADCs: 49-50% Assassins: 45-47% Yasuo: 1%

Reposer13 votes

Hell, even then, stuff like tanks, if they're just being a big super tank, don't really get picked on. Malphite and Rammus are hyper-strong for a few patches cause of ADC meta? It's ok, it's only cause of the meta, not their design, no hate.

Support that gets out of line that isn't named Soraka? It's ok, just retune them a bit, they're good to go.

Risky damage dealers like assassins/yasuo/etc doing their job and scraping about 50% winrate? Fucking ridiculous, you're terrible at game design, fuck yourselves riot etc. Doesn't even matter if it was a problem prior to a certain build that got out of line (Tank Ekko anyone?) People just despise the champs that aren't just button mashers without recognizing actual issues such as itemization, masteries, meta, etc.

Then, just like the post says, after a little while people hate that one thing, they find a new one, and the cycle repeats.

IPromiseTomorrow2 votes

This is to true. I see no one really complains about janna because of her winrate, they don't complain about it because it's just winrate.

But oh boy if Yasuo starts to get popular, meta favored. Then that's when people pull Winrate, and criticise, then they bloat about his abilities. Yasuo should get nerfed because of winrate is also something people do. Whether it's low or high, they'll still state it's wrong for him to have it.

Not to discredit winrate or anything. I'm just here to mention a champion's design affects the boards opinions, moreso than their Winrate.

There is also a side subject to this I didn't touch on.

Skill ceiling and overall balance Ex: Azir Kalista Zed Sol While it's kinda related to what I said I'm not about that.

6Sfool2 votes

If anything, I hate the button-mashers. It's one thing to be outplayed. It's another to get mauled by udyr (or somehow start to outduel him and he escapes easily with 800 ms).

TheChaoticSwede2 votes

The only statistic I'll disagree with you on there is ADCs.

Jinx got nerfed for three patches in a row and people were still complaining she was OP even though she universally had a 46%~ winrate and could barely outmatch a Varus ADC. Same with Kalista, hell people still hate her even though she's essentially been gutted until a rework of some kind.

Meanwhile ADCs like Varus and Sivir can maintain a constant 55%~ winrate for several patches and no one will bat an eye on here.

NineTailedMystic2 votes

Because nobody cares when ADCs like Varus and Siver have a high winrate because they can be annoying, there's nothing inherently bad about there design. Varus pokes people and roots them. Sivir wave clears and makes people go fast. Really the extent of their kits. Meanwhile Jinx is far more noticeable because she mauls teams with AoE Crit rockets that also shoot additional, but smaller, AoE Crit rockets.

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

Oh don't get me started about Jinx. One of the strongest hypercarries in the game hits me with an "execute" ult for 1100 dmg which is half my health.

Sherogarth14 votes

Im still waiting for boards to figure out that LeeSin has above 50% winrate and 30% playrate... It will be glorious shitstorm.

YoungFarmer12 votes

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Im still waiting for boards to figure out that LeeSin has above 50% winrate and 30% playrate... It will be glorious shitstorm.

Holy fuck hes right! http://champion.gg/champion/LeeSin I'll get right on the post!.

RisenDarkKnight2 votes

Yeah I don't even mind playing against lee right now, but I hate that he's in approximately all of my games. I think I had a 10 game period this week where he was in 8 of those games. Like 4 lee sins in a row, then 4 more in the next 6. Rito pls.

PermabannedGaren8 votes

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What? This champion is strong for a patch or two?

Needs to be deleted. Riot is stupid for designing them in the first place.

champion gets a numbers nerf and returns to a 50% winrate

people stop complaining

boards find a new champion that needs to be "deleted"

Balance can only be achieved when all champions I don't play are gutted to be laughably easy for me to beat, while my champions are buffed to be so strong they win games single-handedly.

Mimy7 votes

Let's just say it's all in Vayne

Very Hard Engage2 votes

idgaf whats op or not, stay on league long enough and you realize riot just rotates which champs are strong and which are weak.

im just glad galio got his moment of glory after mid year mage update, even tho now hes a bit weak because no more pen on abyssal.

but it is a fact, certain champs are too strong and others are too weak.

lets compare shall we?

Gangplank viable, play well, and hes a powerhouse for the team.

Karthus not viable, play well and you break even with others. play poorly and you do nothing but feed and miss all of his Q's, oh and have fun losing to anyone with a dive, at least you might be able to take them with you.

XinZhao not viable, build damage and you just die before you reach your target, you have to play like god himself to have a positive KDA. build tank and you offer no cc or utility behind it. good luck finding the adc alone.

ever wonder why certain champs are considered "troll picks?" its not a stereotype, its because from experience people find that they are not as effective as other choices.

EcchiOtakuTM4 votes

You're wrong about karthus NA just can't play him. He's a top tier mid for kr soloQ for a long time even after nerfs.

Very Hard Engage2 votes

karthus absolutely can throw out tons of damages. the issue is you have to play significantly better than your opponent to do it.

TeCoolMage5 votes

Most Koreans play against other Koreans so on average they're all even

notmebuthim2 votes

Leave GP out of the boards, I don't want Peopl to find out he is playable again. Rito might give another nerf

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