I just got this ABSOLUTELY AWESOME LOOKING King of Clubs Mordekaiser skin from crafting. It LOOKS SO BOSS that I'm thinking of adding 
to my army of champions.
Should I play him? Is he good or just a fun pick (I rarely see him around)? When's he a good/bad pick?
How the hell do you play him?
King of Clubs splash art... looks like a total boss
Chønklord2 votes#Malicious Metal, I summon thee from the abysssssss!
WitchQueen Annie2 votesIs he basically League's version of Sauron?
Can he kick Darius?
Mordepool1 votesGunblade into ludens into Rylais
Top/ its home
Mid/ He suffers against zoning mages in lane.
DeathBurst1 votesBot/ Actually OP if you get a Support that understands your specific needs since you're not a traditional Marksman.
Jungle/ A bit cheesy, but a decent and healthy clear, and easy access to dragon.
Mordepool1 votesI didn't want to overwhelm the guys with the Multitude of options available to play on Mordekaiser. Was just giving a starting point
If you are ahead Ludens If not Gunblade
WitchQueen Annie1 votesIsn't Rylais BALLS though?
I mean, I don't build it on Vladimir and Viktor anymore.
I was wondering if I could get away with just running Ghost and Stormraiders instead. Or is Morde way too immobile to consider not going Rylais.
How about Sorc Boots > Gunblade > Ludens > Deathcap > Void Staff > Lyandries (with situational Zhonyas)?
Is Gunblade first necessary or do I power spike much harder if I just went Ludens immediately (I already have free sustain in the kit)?
Mordepool1 votesIt's 3rd or 2nd item. Feels like shit since it was 1st item bought for 6 years
Selegun1 votesGo for it man! He is very fun yo play but feels drasticly different to a lot of champions so prepare for a small learning curve till you get a feel for why you do and don't take damage because of his shield. He is also flexible enough to go anywhere as long as you are willing to plan ahead for the role. Only downside right now is that if you team with random prepare for them to lose their shit while you learn the champion.
Dreadlocks1 votesMy buddy mains him, usually gets to plat every season with a 65% winrate, last year he did it with 75% though he got perm banned cuz hes toxic xD https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=rinky+dinky
WitchQueen Annie1 votesPASSIVE: Mordekaiser gains bonus experience when killing a minion near allies equal to 50% of the experience he lost due to them being there, which totals at 82.6 / 71.73 / 66.3 / 63.04 / 60.87% of the minion's experience bounty.
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WHY is this there?
I mean, its cool and all (I like bonus EXP) but I'm just confused why it's part of his kit or how this fits in naturally. I mean, I get that W can be cast on allies but this just seems kind of random...
Lord Phazanor 1 votes[{quoted}](name=Vlad Maine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qEj1J2oT,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-06-06T17:11:41.653+0000)
PASSIVE: Mordekaiser gains bonus experience when killing a minion near allies equal to 50% of the experience he lost due to them being there, which totals at 82.6 / 71.73 / 66.3 / 63.04 / 60.87% of the minion's experience bounty.
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WHY is this there?
I mean, its cool and all (I like bonus EXP) but I'm just confused why it's part of his kit or how this fits in naturally. I mean, I get that W can be cast on allies but this just seems kind of random...
Because they thought it would be funny to experiment on Mordekaiser (the Master of Metal, a lich king, warlock and warrior who summons the souls of his defeated enemies/allies to do his bidding) and send him botlane with a support (or to go 2 mid as CertainlyT said). Even after more than a year, they didn't officially said "yea we're sorry" and it hurts. :'( Now, on to serious business: playing him botlane works IF the enemy hasn't too much poke/tankiness and IF your support knows how Mordekaiser works. This never happens unless you play with a friend or if you're not low elo (unlike me :'( ). Top lane he shits on the likes of Riven and Yasuo because they want to trade with you but don't realize it doesn't work. For the builds, since he scales off of too many things, you can go full ap, full tank or in between. The best is to go in between toplane and full ap botlane (or mid if you're into that). Full tank is kind of a waste since you don't have cc, so you won't do anything for your team (no damage and 0 utility. Yes, the W heal isn't an utility if you play tank).
WitchQueen Annie1 votesSo do I build ANY tank items in the build or just go 5 AP items and Sorc Boots? Doesn't look like you need CDR (don't see it in builds)?
I like the idea of an AP kick-ass top laner. I play a lot of Vladimir but I expect Morde can bully way harder against melee.
Sounds like he's a situational pick (if you've got engage tanks/fighters in other lanes). Ghost + Stormraiders top a good combination?
Also, can he deal with Fiora?
Mordepool1 votesIt's harder to get CDR in builds. Most CDR items have mana
He wrecks fiora so long as you don't let her spell shield counter your Q. (it cancels all 3 hits if she spell blocks 1)
DeathBurst1 votesCDR is very important, it's just hard to get in the items that Morde likes. You don't want Morello because it has Mana, you don't want to freeze yourself with a Zhonya when you're already so slow, etc. But since your durability is linked to the damage you deal with your spells, more CDR means more damage and more shield, so it's really a good stat to have. Getting your E back .5 s earlier and get 50% shield from it can often be the difference between life and death.
I also disagree with the previous post that says you can go anything from full AP to full Tank. Full Tank is horrible, you need at least 2 damage items in a full build. But you should consider some Tank items, especially if the enemy team is also tanky and you can't hope to burst them. Good items to consider are: Spirit Visage, for the increased healing on your W + CDR, Deadman for the movespeed+slow it gives. You can also opt-in for any of the MR+10% CDR if you situationally need them, including Abyssal since you deal mostly Magic damage.
All the hybrid AP/Defense items are also interesting, especially since most of them also give CDR. Protobelt is HP+Mobility, Banshee is MR+a spell shield that can block a critical CC and let you engage, Zhonya is a bit less enticing but still decent in some situation. Rylai/Liandry also have a decent amount of HP and good synergy with your kit.
Also, don't forget Sterak and Gunblade, you have decent AD ratios, and the highest base AD in the whole game, so you can actually benefit quite a lot from those 2 items. (I've also seen people going for a Trifroce once in a while, since it also works from base AD, but I personally would not recommend that, it's a super niche item for Morde.)
Mordepool1 votesThey did an Official Apology to all Mordekaiser mains on a Pod cast a year and a half ago
Ahristocats1 votesi'm sure you do not even know the reason he went botlane
and still dare to talk about his rework
Lord Phazanor 1 votes[{quoted}](name=Janna X RubicK,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qEj1J2oT,comment-id=000500000002,timestamp=2017-06-06T20:13:54.812+0000)
i'm sure you do not even know the reason he went botlane
and still dare to talk about his rework
Apart from "we want to break the meta"? Go on, enlighten me.
Ahristocats1 votesit has NOTHING to do with breaking the meta
any veteran player would know how old morde was IMPOSSIBLE to balance in solo lane old morde sololane match ups were all decided in selection, or by jungle presence
morde cannot work in solo lane except if his identity changes heavily (his identity was and is right now, slow moving billion of damage no cc champion) if you give him the tools to work alone, then his kit becomes imbalanced as his billion of damage will be reliable if however he should work with a support, then you can outplay his support and win against him, and then mordekaiser match ups become all skilled match ups
certainlyt already explained all of this, and there is a reason the design leader allowed him to do that, because it makes sense
mordekaiser today is strong in duo lane, and was picked multiple time in competition in botlane in 2017 there is a challenger adc mordekaiser main (tastypotatox)
Lord Phazanor 1 votes[{quoted}](name=Janna X RubicK,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qEj1J2oT,comment-id=00050000000200000000,timestamp=2017-06-08T18:57:16.994+0000)
it has NOTHING to do with breaking the meta
any veteran player would know how old morde was IMPOSSIBLE to balance in solo lane old morde sololane match ups were all decided in selection, or by jungle presence
morde cannot work in solo lane except if his identity changes heavily (his identity was and is right now, slow moving billion of damage no cc champion) if you give him the tools to work alone, then his kit becomes imbalanced as his billion of damage will be reliable if however he should work with a support, then you can outplay his support and win against him, and then mordekaiser match ups become all skilled match ups
certainlyt already explained all of this, and there is a reason the design leader allowed him to do that, because it makes sense
mordekaiser today is strong in duo lane, and was picked multiple time in competition in botlane in 2017 there is a challenger adc mordekaiser main (tastypotatox)
Are you a pre-rework Mordekaiser veteran? You played him for 5 years? His kit was unbalanceable, yes, that's why he was reworked. They changed his vfx to smoke (instead of metal) and put a chunk of his power budget in duo lane and dragon gimmicks. The point isn't him being strong, it's CT changing a champion identity despite the heavy backlash of the community. Also, I'd like a source on "it has NOTHING to do with breaking the meta", since most things I read (from rioters) mention wanting to try to break the meta with that rework. Edit: and the fact he's the only Juggernaut who needs an allies' cc or 2 cc items (or a braindead enemy) to deal his damage. All the others have a way of inflicting their damage (Garen speed, Darius slows and pull, etc).
Ahristocats1 votesyou should actually thanks certainlyt because if it weren't him mordekaiser identity would have changed to be viable in solo lane ct didn't change his identity, and made his identity balanced because only in duo lane it can be balanced
you actually ignored all my explination
https://i.gyazo.com/75aa6ab4bd7d334a3b73612cc3d32ea7.png
https://i.gyazo.com/ca8bb44c60a1a41e0825d2f491193825.png
i'm going to leave this here and if you want to keep the arguing
you should tell me why certainlyt wasn't right, because all high elo players agreed with him in 2015 about mordekaiser being impossible to balance in solo lane, someone who has no cc, no mobility, the highest damage output in melee range cannot work in solo lane except if he's broken like pre-rework morde
that's just a fact
Lord Phazanor 1 votes[{quoted}](name=Janna X RubicK,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qEj1J2oT,comment-id=0005000000020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-11T16:03:17.599+0000)
you should actually thanks certainlyt because if it weren't him mordekaiser identity would have changed to be viable in solo lane ct didn't change his identity, and made his identity balanced because only in duo lane it can be balanced
you actually ignored all my explination
https://i.gyazo.com/75aa6ab4bd7d334a3b73612cc3d32ea7.png
https://i.gyazo.com/ca8bb44c60a1a41e0825d2f491193825.png
i'm going to leave this here and if you want to keep the arguing
you should tell me why certainlyt wasn't right, because all high elo players agreed with him in 2015 about mordekaiser being impossible to balance in solo lane, someone who has no cc, no mobility, the highest damage output in melee range cannot work in solo lane except if he's broken like pre-rework morde
that's just a fact
Then rework Annie to be only playable in a duo lane.
Khâmul1 votesDude, I suggest you start playing with him before asking for advices because it would take a long time ^^ Don't rush things and take your time,you'll be able to identify his strength and weaknesses. It would also make you a better player if you discover most of these by yourself instead of getting all the work done for you because you'll be closed in a box.
But more generally,he is an excellent pick when your frontlane has huge CC. Otherwise,it'll be quite complicated to reach your target ,but not impossible.you can kite him easily (you'll discover it by yourself).
RobertGuxinyun1 votesThe old version is much better than now.
I think remake is fail.
Dragon is good but it s Double-edged sword. I have played Moderkaiser from S2 to now and use it more than 3400 times. I think some designers not really understand whats PVP.
No games can be 100% balance, so why we can not use the same champion in ranking?
RobertGuxinyun1 votesI think you should play him. It`s really like a god.
Mid way is best for single ranking.
Bottom way you need a good support.
If your teammates have good control ablities you can use them.
