Remove the AP to make it viable for AD based Champions too and change its stats to this:
Yay or Nay?
Inb4 "Wrong part of the boards" (in which case, which one is the right part?)
Paladin 0f Life2 votesHe'll no. Not only op. But you want to fuck mages more? Zhyonna literally one of the only advantages for mages
Lauchmelder1 votesThis would actually be a buff for mages. The active stays and you actually get counterplay to something like Zed BEFORE you can finish Zhonyas.
FurretHasAGlock2 votes[{quoted}](name=MadKnife IV,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q3AaVaYZ,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-02-22T15:49:22.578+0000)
This would actually be a buff for mages. The active stays and you actually get counterplay to something like Zed BEFORE you can finish Zhonyas.
What the fuck are you saying? This is a BUFF? This is a bigger nerf than the nerfs irelia received over those 20 or so patches .-.
Lauchmelder1 votesDo I really need to write the same comment over and over just because people are too lazy to read responses?
FurretHasAGlock1 votes[{quoted}](name=MadKnife IV,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q3AaVaYZ,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-22T16:48:06.303+0000)
Do I really need to write the same comment over and over just because people are too lazy to read responses?
I read them. All of them. Your crazy.
Paroe1 votes[{quoted}](name=Derpasaurus Trex,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q3AaVaYZ,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-02-22T16:23:04.563+0000)
What the fuck are you saying? This is a BUFF? This is a bigger nerf than the nerfs irelia received over those 20 or so patches .-.
Delusional zed mains are delusional :P
The only way this could possibly work is if we get zhonyas ring back and it stacks with rabby's hat. Even then, this wierd version of zhonyas OP is suggesting should be "zhonyas Aegis" and have 300HP, 50/50 defense, and stasis active.
Krigjer1 votesDelusional zed mains are delusional :P
I'm actually afraid of a Zed building Zhonyas with the active.
Taking advantage of Zed's shadow cd to kill him is useless if he can just Zhonyas to wait for the CD to be back up.
Paroe1 votesI'm actually afraid of a Zed building Zhonyas with the active.
- giving him defensive stats
- AND giving him an invulnerability CD
Taking advantage of Zed's shadow cd to kill him is useless if he can just Zhonyas to wait for the CD to be back up.
People just dont understand mobility is one of the most powerful defenses in this game. Zed and LB are two of the most mobile champions in the game; good ones are nigh untouchable if they want to be. No assassin needs zhonyas. Zhonyas was LITTERALLY created as a bait tool for AP carries os they could "be caught", zhonyas, and their team collapses on the enemy after the AP has eaten all the skillshots.
Krigjer1 votes. Zhonyas was LITTERALLY created as a bait tool for AP carries os they could "be caught", zhonyas, and their team collapses on the enemy after the AP has eaten all the skillshots.
Oh, I know. I have a friend that builds Zhonyas on ADC in certain games, especially if he's getting focused hard. Enemyteam blows all cds on him, he Zhonyas while the rest of us collapse to help and blow the enemy team up.
Billy VoHagen1 votesThey should remove GA and have something like this in its place. But removing zhonyas fucks over AP champs. If they did that, then QSS should be removed to.
Lauchmelder1 votesI wouldn't remove QSS, I would remove 
instead. Naturally, if you remove the AP Ratio on Zhonyas you would need to increase it on the other items.
ZLbSwAR23I1 votes10% hybrid pen.
Less armour.
Where the hell am I going to get my AP from now? What's the point in me buying that, I might as well get 
in this case.
Lauchmelder1 votes[{quoted}](name=MadKnife IV,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q3AaVaYZ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-02-22T15:14:15.330+0000)
I wouldn't remove QSS, I would remove
Oh, and the armour stays the same*