Hey Mages! We still got an option for mana regen!

Sherogarth·Apr 10, 2016·146 votes·8,368 views

So the whole reason for mana and item changes is to force mages to build raw mana and have large mana pools they should menage, right?

Yep

And whats about mana regen?

It goes to slave... I mean supports.

Ohh thats righ... wait, wait, wait! Then why not do what we, lainers, always do?

???

Abuse items created for our dear "friends".

You wouldn't dare!

Ofc we will... Now lets have a look at thier items... Meh... this is bad... useless... OH, This looks shiny!

Stop it! Leave this item, you filthy mage!

No. Now it's our item. Our lord and savior. Our mana regen option. And you know what? This active is great too.

216 Comments

LankPantsApr 10, 201680 votes

Gee I can't wait for the cycle of mages use FQC because it's their only mana regen option, Riot trashes FQC, only viable supports are tanks because FQC is terrible. Always good when Riot does that.

SherogarthApr 10, 2016150 votes

Nasus : "The cycle of balance continues. We will abuse, they will nerf."

NαgmaApr 10, 20165 votes

ahah login to upvote

ArakadiaApr 10, 201634 votes

I read it in his sexy deep Susan voice...

GhostOfShrimpmasApr 11, 201610 votes

Ezreal You called?

The Yetii RiderApr 10, 20162 votes

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Gee I can't wait for the cycle of mages use FQC because it's their only mana regen option, Riot trashes FQC, only viable supports are tanks because FQC is terrible. Always good when Riot does that.

FQC is already losing mana regen. It will give 75%, which is decent (not good) for supports.

Of course, as part of this change Riot can just lower the base regen of every Mage, making regen items much worse on them.

Ariel the CruelApr 10, 20165 votes

making regen items much worse on them.

Lissandra I haven't bought mana regen since they made it a dynamic value. So. . . I'm really not affected by this change.

CatastropApr 10, 20164 votes

and I'm getting a shiny new mobility item to work with, happy times overall for Lissandra mains. Although, I'd like to try Archangel's Lissandra to test how viable the Awe passive will be on her when it hits live.

AlüeApr 10, 201647 votes

[slayer-jinx-unamused] not this again

SherogarthApr 10, 201641 votes

I know how u feel. Dont get me wrong I also dont want this to happen and im posting this to show that it can be problem again. But Im like 90% sure this is how it will end :/.

MhihnjApr 10, 201646 votes

http://i.imgur.com/rEf4Xtu.jpg

SaiannaApr 10, 201643 votes

Riot: I have even better mana regen for mages!

Riot: Fountain!

ArakadiaApr 10, 201613 votes

Even in the fountain mana regen is slower then a snail.

Lady HammerlockApr 10, 201623 votes

More support nerfs

Riot "think for this years preseason assassins will get there rework"

support mains "but Ri...."

Riot "haha..dont make us nerf item 3222 and item 2049 to"

support mains "..........."

Riot "good slaves...err i mean supports"

invisiblecat1Apr 10, 201611 votes

The champions themselves are just like slaves, I went AP Janna mid, and found myself ulting and sheilding my allies 90% of the time

KING 5HARKApr 10, 20165 votes

The funny point is, Soraka cant even heal herself....

DessemApr 10, 201613 votes

We call it "landing your Q". :^)

Darkslayer85Apr 10, 201614 votes

Ok guys, this is the last existing mana potion in Runeterra.

Gragas HEY IS DET BER???? (drinks)

item 3070 [zombie-nunu-tears]

Kitten of EvilApr 11, 20165 votes

Olaf : CHUG CHUG CHUG!

Jet SettApr 10, 201614 votes

Sounds like someone's making a Claim on the Frost Queen.

PrimadonnaApr 10, 201612 votes

Riot nerfing MP5 pisses me off so bad. I think I'm gonna start playing other lanes... since my two (mage/support) are VERY dependent on mana regen.

ModCaptainMårvelousApr 10, 201612 votes

Then you remember FQC had it's mana regen lowered to 75%

HazyCloud7Apr 10, 201612 votes

Love how the marksmen changes improved their itemization and gave different marksmen more defined roles. It ended up going so well for them we see marksmen frequently played in EVERY role except support. Immortals literally just played a triple adc comp with Lucian top.

And then the mage update is just a global nerf with reduction in AP on so many items and removing mana regen in favor flat mana. Zhonyas gave 100 AP for 3000 gold not too long ago, and now they want to change it to 70 AP with a 30 second higher cooldown so Zed can just ult a couple times while it's down. And they want mages taking damage to restore mana? LOL. Not every midlaner is Swain or Cho gath.

GenghisEmoApr 10, 20166 votes

Rito balance team at their finest XD.

QjTHqo3RTqApr 10, 201611 votes

Velkoz I'm not happy about any of this

ArakadiaApr 10, 20169 votes

Syndra Nor am I...

KING OF MASKSApr 11, 20168 votes

Zed I'm ecstatic! :3

WyrmbladeApr 10, 201610 votes

I'm okay with no mana regen as long as mages and manaless champs are balanced around it, but after this season I'm not sure riot will be able to.

Linna ExcelApr 10, 20166 votes

Part of me is worried people will drop merciless for meditation and start trying to run mana regen runes to compensate.

I'm suspecting late game will feel the changes more.

jdizzle367Apr 11, 20168 votes

riot: We want mages to opt into flat mana instead of regen me: oh well i guess I'll just start building item 3027 more Riot: but fuck we don't want mages building items with good stats lets just nerf it. me:...fuck

Critmaster GarenApr 10, 20166 votes

i really dont see the difference between a larger manapool and mana regeneration for mages.

i mean its either running out sooner and waiting like 10 seconds between each individual cast, or having the mana to sustain through 2 full teamfights and recalling once between them (or taking blue buff).

all you mage mains are focusing on the wrong problem imo. but ill guess you will realize soon enough, when you face kassadin with 5 catalyst items, or a 4k health 600 ap cho who dashes in your face to eat you.

youre gonna go through the same shit as the juggernauts. your items are going to be utilized better by top lane ap champs like ekko and rumble and ap assassins, rather than mid lane mages, and youre still fucked. followed by a series of nerfs to your shiny new items, because riot doesnt actually want marksmen to die to them.

Supreme Senpai69Apr 10, 201621 votes

In teamfights it's more or less the same. Either you or the enemy is dead before your mana is out. In laning phase, something mages were already struggling VERY hard with, that mana is going to run dry super quick though. They'll have no way to get more of it. They'll have to back. They'll lose exp, gold, and probably their tower.

Big LincolnApr 10, 20164 votes

what on earth are you doing that you run out of mana immediately after coming to lane

get two item 1056 rings if you're having that much trouble before you go into your mana item.

warpenguin555Apr 10, 201614 votes

[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pzR9EJEb,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-04-10T13:02:31.308+0000)

what on earth are you doing that you run out of mana immediately after coming to lane

get two rings if you're having that much trouble before you go into your mana item.

2 rings sounds like a great idea late game

bill84Apr 10, 20167 votes

Galio 2 rings =/= item 3028

softest boyApr 10, 201636 votes

Champions like Orianna or Syndra require a lot more mana to utilize their kit - such mana consumption that a dorans ring or two will not cut it 5 minutes into the game. Meanwhile, Zed is over here throwing a shuriken every 5 seconds for no mana cost.

I'm legit nervous for these upcoming changes, being a support/mage main.

Ariel the CruelApr 10, 201621 votes

Meanwhile, Zed is over here throwing a shuriken every 5 seconds for no mana cost.

Just eat a few shurikens. That'll restore your mana!

cloman100Apr 10, 201627 votes

[zombie-brand-clap] *gets ulted by zed *--dies-- Team: "WTF WHY YOU SO AGGRESSIVE?" Me: "I wanted the mana." :3

The Taco KatApr 10, 20165 votes

Buys

CC MustangApr 10, 20164 votes

Veigar Will thrive in this meta, no mana problems ever!

Irelia BotApr 10, 201611 votes

Last I heard they are changing his passive.

KingnewgameplusApr 11, 20167 votes

Wow. They are really going all out to make sure mana regen isn't even a concept anymore.

RenascentApr 10, 20163 votes

FQC: 2200g 100% base mana regen 10% cd 50 AP 2g per 10s Money passive 90s cd slow

Athene's: 2100g 75% base mana regen 20% cd 40 AP Weird heal passive 100% base mana/health regen depending on your current % health/mana

If your only gripe is mana regen, new Athene's overpowers FQC by far. Clarify your statement if you want more than just mana regen.

KING 5HARKApr 10, 20167 votes

No Mage WANTS to spend an Item-Slot just for Manareg

RenascentApr 10, 20165 votes

That's the whole point of my post: All I see from these complaints is that people want mana regen. Well, mana regen certainly isn't going away, so either those people can't read the changes thoroughly or they want something more than just mana regen.

I'm leaning towards the latter, that people want more than just mana regen. What I want is for people to state what exactly it is they want than just echoing what other people are posting about just to get front page.

SherogarthApr 10, 201618 votes

I did not post this to get to the front page but to show that there can and probably will be problems with abuse of support items if Riot takes no counter-action. I dont want another item nerfed to oblivion just because it was abused.

To answer your question. We want something more than mana regen. An item that gives free gold and homing slow ghosts is definitely "something more". I really want some fun and good way to regen our large mana pools but this whole concept of "take some hits on face to regen mana" is bad on non-tank mages. Imagine guys like vel'koz or lux - "Oh no i have no mana in teamfight. I'll go to the front line to eat some hits, if im lucky maybe even Zed-sama's gonna ult me." Is it just me or this sounds retarded?