I'm quitting League until Irelia is gutted or reverted.

BestPudgeNA·Nov 26, 2018·13 votes·1,728 views

Had the wonderful experience of playing against her for the first time in weeks today because i was playing top lane and i wanted to ban Viktor who is even more aggravating to lane against.

I got a good amount of time to think during that game. During that time i came to the realization that it's just not worth the aggravation to put time into a game where the devs just don't give a fuck about things being fair or fun to play against.

Irelia isn't the only thing wrong about this game but too me it's just a clear middle finger (-5MS) to the player base and that Riot really just doesn't care at all.

So until Irelia gets MAJOR nerfs or a revert i'll take it as an admission that Riot just doesn't care at all. Until then i'm done with League and any other Riot products.

-5MS xD Everything is good now right guys

20 Comments

DisembarkNov 26, 20186 votes

Isn’t this your 5th quitting league thread? Lata.

Baby GhoulNov 26, 20182 votes

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Isn’t this your 5th quitting league thread? Lata.

Maybe one day it will actually happen.

[sg-lulu]

BestPudgeNANov 26, 20184 votes

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Isn’t this your 5th quitting league thread? Lata.

No it's my first and i've uninstalled.

420 gramsNov 26, 20186 votes

She already got gutted. 335 movespeed? Unplayable now.

ThefrostyvikingNov 26, 20184 votes

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I highly recommend playing the damn champ for the quickest method of learning her weaknesses, or you can just look up her counters on google or by checking some guide somewhere.

Aftershock lissandra is one counter i do know off that was proven effective in worlds.

And she needs to be gutted? Have you actually checked her win/playrates at all <Removed by Moderation>?

10% pickrate and 50% winrate, flat for plati+, extremely well balanced for this elo, EUW, OP.GG

7% pickrate and 45% winrate gold NA. https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/irelia/na/top

9% pickrate and 46% winrate diamond NA.

OP you call this OP? I say you ought to <Removed by Moderation> start looking for solutions to whatever problems you have that makes you struggle so much.

Statistics have proven beyond all doubt that Irelia is by no means OP, not even close, no matter what you otherwise numbers proves it false.

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/na/top/diamond

Here is a look what diamond top looks like, sure Irelia is number 5 in pickrate......and number 32 in winrate.

Only impressive thing about her is the banrate but if she really was OP she´d have better numbers.

BestPudgeNANov 26, 20182 votes

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Not really a fair point. But even if this was true that wouldn't matter because every pro and every high elo streamer says the same thing and has been saying the same thing for months on end about how disgusting broken Irelia even some that play her a ton like TF Blade.

ThefrostyvikingNov 27, 20181 votes

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Not really a fair point. But even if this was true that wouldn't matter because every pro and every high elo streamer says the same thing and has been saying the same thing for months on end about how disgusting broken Irelia even some that play her a ton like TF Blade.

And Hashashin called Jax weak for ages after conq was added and several assassin mains have never stopped crying about supports.

TF blade? Currently has a 1-4 score on irelia, 1 win and 4 losses.

Sure his overall winrate on her is very impressive at a staggering 63%, however she was much better before minor nerfs and when people had no idea what she did, how she worked or when she powerspiked.

Heck the Irelia mains on reddit have dedicated discussions to the best cheese strategies, and most of them are based on people not knowing what the heck the Irelia is doing while hopping around.

Now though? She has gone through worlds, people have learnt and found her counters and the statistics show that her winrates have indeed started to sink, a lot in some places.

When i started in season 3 the most important thing for a midlaner was to learn how to avoid cheese because 1-2 deaths and the enemy LB/talon/fizz/kassawin would takeover the game by themselves.

Toplane had Teemo, renekton and Fiora doing the same thing.

Botlane had Draven and somehow ezreal also cheesing for all they were worth.

One of the most important aspects of the game was learning how to deal with matchups that wanted nothing more than cheesing to victory, i seriously cant see anything different about current Irelia.

That goes for the current jungle even, with the level two ganks, early invades and twitch jungle itself.

ModJikkerNov 27, 20182 votes

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I highly recommend playing the damn champ for the quickest method of learning her weaknesses, or you can just look up her counters on google or by checking some guide somewhere.

Aftershock lissandra is one counter i do know off that was proven effective in worlds.

And she needs to be gutted? Have you actually checked her win/playrates at all __?

10% pickrate and 50% winrate, flat for plati+, extremely well balanced for this elo, EUW, OP.GG

7% pickrate and 45% winrate gold NA. https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/irelia/na/top

9% pickrate and 46% winrate diamond NA.

OP you call this OP? I say you ought to __ start looking for solutions to whatever problems you have that makes you struggle so much.

Statistics have proven beyond all doubt that Irelia is by no means OP, not even close, no matter what you otherwise numbers proves it false.

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/na/top/diamond

Here is a look what diamond top looks like, sure Irelia is number 5 in pickrate......and number 32 in winrate.

Only impressive thing about her is the banrate but if she really was OP she´d have better numbers.

Hey,

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Who Fed RuNov 26, 20182 votes

you know you can also always ban her if she isn't banned already.

BestPudgeNANov 26, 20183 votes

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you know you can also always ban her if she isn't banned already.

I can't ban all the champs i find broken/annoying. But i suggest you read before responding. I'm not quitting because she is OP. I'm quitting because it's a clear indication that Riot gives zero fucks about her being OP and wants to cash in on skin scales rather then produce an enjoyable experience for the players.

Who Fed RuNov 27, 20181 votes

Riot not giving a fuck about the enjoyment of the playerbase? Tell me something new.

But that didn't just start last week but some years ago, and now we have shit like Neeko being released. Just ban the most annoying champion and hope that your team bans the rest.

SwiftKitten88Nov 26, 20183 votes

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you know you can also always ban her if she isn't banned already.

that would be an option if riot only broke one champion at a time..

there are too many champions that are broken, we can't ban them all

so every game is going to be hell. i have also quit.

I'm waiting for a time were riot grows a fucking pair and addresses this shit. before i come back.

hopefully that's sooner rather than later

Doge2020Nov 26, 20182 votes

Maybe you should find a weakness in Irelia’s kit or a way that you personally can fight and beat Irelia? Example is trading early in a way that lets you chunk her a lot while you didn’t take a lot of damage. And Garen is good for this because he can easily use Q on her and prevent her from using Q to attack or escape, this is MY PERSONAL way of fighting her and I have had a lot of success with it, EDIT: other people may disagree with me but this is something that I personally found great and it works very well for me. Also look down below for some reasoning about why Garen works for me against Irelia.

One thing that you also have to keep in mind is that the only way she can stack her passive and conq is by attacking the wave and most likely pushing it. So you can play save and let the wave push, or you can engage on her and fight her before she reaches max stacks of her passive and has conq prepped. You can also use a champ with short CD engages/trades to bait out her W before you all in or before your jungler ganks, you would be putting a very valuable spell on a fairly long CD to give yourself (and your jungler too if he/she ganks) an easier time with catching and killing the Irelia.

If you take the time to find weaknesses in champs and learn how to play around these weaknesses then you will most likely win against the champ no matter how “overpowered” you think he/she is.

EDIT: for y’all wondering I stated my PERSONAL strategy and why as a low elo player I could abuse this, the one above with Garen is because a lot of the time Irelia players I play against will accidentally and/or stupidly use Q on a minion next to me which lets me instantly and easily Q them and chunk them with Q+Grasp+ Sheen/triforce if bought and easily follow up with my e and even an R if I am past lvl 6. An Irelia can definitely outclass and beat Garen so I recommended fighting her BEFORE she reaches her big damage state with her passive and conq fully stacked. I also put general strategies as concepts that one could use in the second paragraph.

BestPudgeNANov 26, 20184 votes

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Maybe you should find a weakness in Irelia’s kit or a way that you personally can fight and beat Irelia? Example is trading early in a way that lets you chunk her a lot while you didn’t take a lot of damage. And Garen is good for this because he can easily use Q on her and prevent her from using Q to attack or escape, this is my personal way of fighting her and I have had a lot of success with it.

Garen loses to her in both short trades and all in in the 1 v 1 despite the fact Irelia is the one that gets to determine if the fight happens. But again the problem isn't that Irelia is OP. Lots of champs are OP and there will always be an OP champ. The problem is Riot just isn't trying at this point.

Doge2020Nov 26, 20181 votes

Well I said Garen because most Irelia players in my elo are stupid and Q right next to me for a free trade for me. I did say that it was my PERSONAL way, it wasn’t a universal guide that every player can use to instantly win. but besides that my main point of Find the weaknesses and play around it still stands. It’s just that my style is a very hard bully with grasp and Q max as Garen.

And you do have to keep in mind that one champ being nerfed isn’t the only problem, game balance is like a giant web, buff/nerf one thing and other things will play better or worse, even stuff that you never intended will happen. Riot can’t simply nerf Irelia because her numbers might not even be the problem at all, it could be that the interaction of Conq and/or squishier champs in mid lane allow her to perform better. So if Riot buffs Irelia’s main counters (like Poppy for a visual example with poppy’s W) then Irelia will perform worse and will move more into a balanced state.

What you said is sound evidence and is all true, I was just stating my personal strategy and was stating some potential and overall strategies for a wide variety of champs that you could use against her to beat her.

Doge2020Nov 26, 20181 votes

I edited my comment to say that the Garen part was my personal way.