A lot of people are saying that 
isn't a very good jungler. She isn't very good at anything. I mean, she's no 
or 
but why is she considered such a bad champion? She has great clear, decent damage (depending on the way you build her.) but I've never understood why people think she's bad. She has really good potential on ganks. Go in, E, drop W and then Q. Her ganks are fantastic. At least, I think they are. Opinions?
DJ Lucio1 votesShe gets outfarmed, outleveled, and can't gank as often as a Lee Sin or Hecarim. She's squishy, can be invaded early and die. Needs stacks, without them she's weaker. Lee Sin can easily 1v1 her early game, she's generally a weak champion. Since spawn times of camps have been increased, she can't farm as much.
Spooky Kittyy1 votesDepends on who their jungle is. Other than Lee, Heca, and like... Xin, I haven't really gotten counter-jungled. But then again, Lee and Heca being meta, well... She is just prey to them. But she can definitely gank as often. If she clears blue side first, she tends to be full health and mana. (If you clear right.) She is definitely a weak champ early but if she gets enough farm and kills (or assist) she tends to get stronger. I tend to build Trinity Force on her first. Granted, it's an expensive weapon but totally helps with health and attack damage.
Darkslayer851 votesLee Sin can 1 v 1 her them early?
Not if you know how to play them.
Bait his Q by dodging and use Mounting Dread and Dance of Arrows to stay sticky and deal damage to him.
DJ Lucio1 votesSorry, them.
But yes, he can definitely can. If a Lee Sin invades me and Q's me through terrain, all I can do is flash, kite with W, and Q away.
AgeOfTheMage1 votesSHHHHH DONT BRING ATTENTION TO THEEEEMMM(they're my secret op)
Spooky Kittyy1 votesI must bring attention. KINDRED DESERVES CHANGE.
AgeOfTheMage1 votesNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :( SHES SPECIAL AND UNDERPLAYEEED also i know an op kindred build
Blàdedancer1 votesTell me .-. I can't play her for shit rn
AgeOfTheMage1 votesaight, first tell me what you build on her? mind you that if she get hard cc'd shes pretty much dead
Blàdedancer1 votesI don't even have a build for her rn, I just go a bunch of random mixes of bloodrazor, zeal items, botrk, and bloodthrirster
Darkslayer852 votesNo, fuck that.
I'm a mastery seven and died inside.
Botrk is trash right now and Bloodthirster doesn't work on on-hit effects (your passive) so it's not as useful.
Try 
as your core build.
bad arcade kitty1 votesI don't even have a build for her rn, I just go a bunch of random mixes of bloodrazor, zeal items, botrk, and bloodthrirster
check champion gg
generally her build is like this 
runaan before bc unless you got a lot of stacks
Darkslayer851 votesSame, secret secret OP
bad arcade kitty1 votesthey buffed fervor recently so i guess it is time to ditch thunderlords...
also kindred unlike tanky junglers is a pain when the enemy have a fed assassin/mage which can instagib you because you are just an adc but with nobody to peel for you
Shadow Hazard1 votesThe clear isn't actually that good, isn't horrible but sure as hell isn't great, on top of being mauled by the raptors forcing you to need to skip that camp. Kindred's early game is mediocre and that can be easily seen by stats also so it isn't a point of kindred feels bad early, kindred is bad early as a plain fact. Kindred loses to basically every other option pre level 6 thanks to the earlier Q cooldown nerfs. The ganks really aren't that good either since they both lack hard CC (reksai being the more famous example) or real damage threat (shyvana being a good example of this point). All of their damage is tied into their passive and they need to have a decent early game to actually get that passive late game, but as said earlier their early game is absolute shit. Frankly the only jungle marksman who could be argued to be worse than kindred is quinn, all the other options are flat out better carries than kindred with the only thing that kindred can offer over then is a panic button that could make or break a team fight.