A lot of people are saying that 
isn't a very good jungler. She isn't very good at anything. I mean, she's no 
or 
but why is she considered such a bad champion? She has great clear, decent damage (depending on the way you build her.) but I've never understood why people think she's bad. She has really good potential on ganks. Go in, E, drop W and then Q. Her ganks are fantastic. At least, I think they are. Opinions?
She gets outfarmed, outleveled, and can't gank as often as a Lee Sin or Hecarim. She's squishy, can be invaded early and die. Needs stacks, without them she's weaker. Lee Sin can easily 1v1 her early game, she's generally a weak champion. Since spawn times of camps have been increased, she can't farm as much.
SHHHHH DONT BRING ATTENTION TO THEEEEMMM(they're my secret op)
they buffed fervor recently so i guess it is time to ditch thunderlords...
also kindred unlike tanky junglers is a pain when the enemy have a fed assassin/mage which can instagib you because you are just an adc but with nobody to peel for you
The clear isn't actually that good, isn't horrible but sure as hell isn't great, on top of being mauled by the raptors forcing you to need to skip that camp. Kindred's early game is mediocre and that can be easily seen by stats also so it isn't a point of kindred feels bad early, kindred is bad early as a plain fact. Kindred loses to basically every other option pre level 6 thanks to the earlier Q cooldown nerfs. The ganks really aren't that good either since they both lack hard CC (reksai being the more famous example) or real damage threat (shyvana being a good example of this point). All of their damage is tied into their passive and they need to have a decent early game to actually get that passive late game, but as said earlier their early game is absolute shit. Frankly the only jungle marksman who could be argued to be worse than kindred is quinn, all the other options are flat out better carries than kindred with the only thing that kindred can offer over then is a panic button that could make or break a team fight.
