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Damage outscales defense to the point of khazix being able to duel tank amumu all game long.

ImGodlyatYasuo·12/24/2018, 7:28:31 AM·4 votes·1,397 views

I went tank amumu, he went khazix full ad all game long he out sustained, out damaged, and out lived me. The game ended with them taking baron and elder 10 seconds flat in the time it took me to walk to baron from mid they took it and ryze ulted to mid in the time it took me to get to mid to elder they took and they just solo ended the game, prior they took baron and took all of mid and the nexus towers since we couldnt stop the endless push mid. This is how the average game feels for people who play tanks as tanks instead of AP ONE SHOT GERNADE AMUMU BUILD!!!! You fight someone with high damage they kill you early, they get a lead, they get armor shred by the time you actually finish some items, and bam they death ball mid and the game is over. No stopping, Objective after Objective, No Backing, No fighting, Just waiting for them to push mid in 30 seconds and end the game flat out.

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Sire Hippington12/24/2018, 2:51:36 PM3 votes

not disagreeing with the statement that damage outscales tankiness way to far, but the specifc example is pretty bad, Kah is designed around winning 1v1s while amumu is a powerfull teamfighter, seems about right that the 1v1 champ wins the duel vs the teamfight champ...

Ferrinova12/24/2018, 7:41:15 AM1 votes

good luck changing any of this by talkin on boards. Riot doesnt read the boards or they would have dealt with this by now.

Tahminatrix 12/24/2018, 7:46:05 AM1 votes

You pretty much don't get any tankier against a specific damage type after 3 defensive items. Ive learned that the hard way. There is no such thing as tanks, only bruisers, full tank is horribly inefficient once you run out of items with unique passives to abuse.

xDogMeatx12/24/2018, 1:36:18 PM1 votes

it is annoying when the enemy dont let you have a break what makes it worse is when they are allowed to steal your camps which puts you further behind instead of putting a invisible shield on jg monsters on your side to prevent this toxic way to win thats why players hate each other due to helplessness. or even put a invisible barrier after 1st tower for 30 secs at least to slow it down instead on boom tower 1 then boom tower 2 then half dmg tower 3. its almost as if they dont want you to have a ghost of a chance at winning or a glimmer of hope. why are enemies allowed to farm off of your jungle when they dont obviously need the gold i mean DONT YOU HAVE ENOUGH GOLD. they obviously do it to make others frustrated and helpless. thats why its better to stick to damage builds if theres mainly melee jungles so your not missing out on the fun of at least oneshotting something or at least half shotting.

Pierce The Veal12/24/2018, 3:06:38 PM1 votes

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I went tank amumu, he went khazix full ad all game long he out sustained, out damaged, and out lived me. The game ended with them taking baron and elder 10 seconds flat in the time it took me to walk to baron from mid they took it and ryze ulted to mid in the time it took me to get to mid to elder they took and they just solo ended the game, prior they took baron and took all of mid and the nexus towers since we couldnt stop the endless push mid. This is how the average game feels for people who play tanks as tanks instead of AP ONE SHOT GERNADE AMUMU BUILD!!!! You fight someone with high damage they kill you early, they get a lead, they get armor shred by the time you actually finish some items, and bam they death ball mid and the game is over. No stopping, Objective after Objective, No Backing, No fighting, Just waiting for them to push mid in 30 seconds and end the game flat out.

For ONE, you were a silver 4 amumu against a GOLD 4 kha’zix, you were outtiered.

SECOND: you rushed cinderhulk, which is an item whose defense scales the more defense you have.

THIRD: you ended the game with three completed defensive items, excluding boots. Of those, ONE was an armor item.

FOURTH: he was far more fed than you, 18/7/6 to your 4/10/10. He ended the game with 18k gold, you ended with 12k. AND furthermore they had an 18/3 jinx and you still went for and bought an abyssal mask.

At this point you can’t blame damage creep. You can only blame yourself, and had it been ranked, I would have said matchmaking, but it was a normal, and their fiddle was Iron 3. Simply put, it wasn’t damage creep, they were simply too much better than you.

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not disagreeing with the statement that damage outscales tankiness way to far, but the specifc example is pretty bad, Kah is designed around winning 1v1s while amumu is a powerfull teamfighter, seems about right that the 1v1 champ wins the duel vs the teamfight champ...

And this is also true as a side note. You could have wom your team some teamfights had you made them group.