Ap item changes suck 400 ap full build end game as syndra no damage cant do much.

ImGodlyatYasuo··8 votes·1,332 views

Useless couldnt kill an adc when the support with guardian alone was around.Mages are now completely useless items mana missing so I cant use my spells more to make up for the lack of damage. The utility gained wasnt enough for the trade off to be worth it on champs like syndra were once your combo is blown you have nothing else.

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Malix Farwin4 votes

Let me elaborate on what the OP is saying, right now most things cost 1300+, a lot of the core builds are very expensive. Before the patch everyone built a morellos because it was a good budgeted item that was overall cheap and had pieces that were cheap that you could buy into. Now they sorta of made a starter line that all 3 options are very expensive with expensive parts(lost chapter line) and not only has the price gone up of those lines, even trying to buy something as simple as the lost chapter costs 1100 gold up from 900 gold. Sure it gives you CDR but CDR isnt damage so you still have a harder time wave clearing in the early game without the extra AP you would of had otherwise for the gold spent. Then finally the completed items themselves have a higher total gold cost on top of less AP. You are now forced into building a Deathcap early and it really sucks.

ModWulf Helhammer3 votes

What are you even saying

nm10103 votes

Stop building liandries, it is a tank killing item now. Get the stacking orb thing and a death cap as second and third items. You will be one shotting anyone you want after that.

Malix Farwin1 votes

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Stop building liandries, it is a tank killing item now. Get the stacking orb thing and a death cap as second and third items. You will be one shotting anyone you want after that.

AD items are still cheaper so while you are building those expensive items you are getting outscaled. furthermore the stacking orb is very gimicky and doesn't synergize with all ap champs.

Remember how people were complaining about AD champions outscaling AP champs because of cheaper items. That got much worse.

nm10104 votes

Typically ap items are more efficent, at least early ones (luden's is 96% gold efficient for the stat line vs youmuu's 86% gold efficiency). As for the orb, I really don't care whether you think it synergizes well or not. It gives you a conditional two fucking hundred ap for 2800g (211% gold efficiency), with luden's and a death cap that is 574 fucking ap at 3 items without any runes or anything.

Phieldworker2 votes

I think you need to slow down and explain where you are coming from, what is bothering you, and what a fix you would like to see. Right now you just have a long run on sentence that doesn't have any depth to it.

Are you saying the new ap items make people too powerful? Are you saying they cut down the damage of champs? Where are you going with this?

ImGodlyatYasuo5 votes

I say they ruin mages I know its a huge run on sentence and makes no sense.I cant really help it I cant kill adcs anymore they have shielding so my combo is useless and ineffective. So instead of playing syndra mid I would be better off playing an ad champ when syndra is the only champion I honestly I like and care about mid lane.700 ap and being able to kill someone with your Q W E ignite and kill someone with your double Q ult at the same time was an amazing feeling now im lucky to catch an adc off guard and land my full combo on them with no support around. Basically 700 > 400 utility included....

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