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Can we talk about Nasus?

MorningCoffee21·5/6/2019, 5:07:29 PM·3 votes·1,404 views

Okay, so this will be a short-post, but important nonetheless because it will address why Nasus is a problematic champion.

  1. He can turn off minimap, never rotate to anything, and still be rewarded because he's farming stacks.
  2. 12 stacks per large camp -> Where did riot even come up with this number from? If you're playing a champion that can't perma freeze versus him he will just have an incredibly high amount of stacks mid to late to and build tank to the point where you have to send 2-3 or even 4 people for him. I'm not saying he's a problem in Diamond+ because jungles actually look at what champions the enemy team has and play the game accordingly.
  3. Wither has an effective 1.05 second cooldown at max cdr with it maxed. Let's say you're playing jax.It's nearly impossible to kite his E because he can just fking spam his W on you.

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NaughtyWord5/6/2019, 5:22:07 PM2 votes

Can we talk about Nasus?

Sure

  1. He can turn off minimap, never rotate to anything, and still be rewarded because he's farming stacks.
  2. 12 stacks per large camp -> Where did riot even come up with this number from? If you're playing a champion that can't perma freeze versus him he will just have an incredibly high amount of stacks mid to late to and build tank to the point where you have to send 2-3 or even 4 people for him. I'm not saying he's a problem in Diamond+ because jungles actually look at what champions the enemy team has and play the game accordingly.
  3. Wither has an effective 1.05 second cooldown at max cdr with it maxed. Let's say you're playing jax.It's nearly impossible to kite his E because he can just fking spam his W on you.

Nasus isn't even all that great of a champion. Here's why: Outside of maybe Garen he is the most easily kited champion in this game. His success depends on two things:

  1. His ability to stack
  2. Enemy team composition

You chose Jax, a rather poor choice or you picked Jax and Nasus was picked against you because Nasus can handle Jax. Either way, it is a match up that didn't go your way. Either learn how to kite him, ban him, or play a champion that can kite him. If you see a Nasus picked, see if your midlaner or support will pick a control mage (Morgana Lux Neeko Karma Zyra Zilean just a few recommendations) to assist in kiting himlater in the game when Nasus becomes a threat.

I don't even know if Nasus is a counter to Jax or not, but some champions are inevitably going to be better against certain other champions. Paper, rock, scissors.

NaughtyWord5/6/2019, 5:47:20 PM2 votes

Looked into this further, Nasus' W (Wither) has a range of 600.

He is utterly outranged by all control mages, (Morgana's Q [Dark Binding] has a range nearly double that), and several ranged-champions auto attacks including but not limited to Annie Kindred (with 10 stacks) Caitlyn Tristana (Draw a Bead lvl 18) Jinx (rank 5 Switcharoo with fishbones) KogMaw (rank 5 Bio-Arcane Barrage) Twitch with Spray and Pray.

Honestly, if you picked Jax into Nasus that is your fault especially considering several champions have good win-rates against him.

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/counter/Nasus/Top/

ÀIpha5/6/2019, 10:56:05 PM2 votes

Lol, try taking nasus into higher elo, it's the same as yasuo, once people know how to play against him he isn't strong. And in reality, he isn't that strong.

NaughtyWord5/6/2019, 7:46:40 PM1 votes

I have been on the receiving end of a Jax butt fucking as Ashe more times than I care to admit. He has a leap and a stun that feels grossly unfair to me. Thankfully I have a support and an entire team that can help peel him off me or outright CC him before he can even touch me and that I won't shine as Ashe in a 1v1 against Jax, but in a team setting I can and do shine routinely Jax notwithstanding.

Perhaps you are in the same position against Nasus as I am with Jax.