Singed - too much effort for too little payoff

hgjkdlsaf jeldvb··5 votes·721 views

He's honestly unplayable in lane at this point. Anyone with heals, range, mobility, or the ability to build an early spectre's out trades him every time. Anyone with healing outsustains him because it takes a lot of mana to fling. Anyone with range just pokes him, and he has no way trade with them outside of an all in. Champs with mobility can either avoid him or stick to him. Their choice. Spectre's trivializes laning against singed, because its mechanics naturally fuck his Q on top of straight up reducing the damage with mr. Hex drinker does the same.

His auto attack animation is awful. Until he get points in q, he will be behind in farm. He will be behind in farm all lane because he's so easy to zone off. Singed is gold dependent. He needs to build a lot of movespeed because his kit doesn't provide enough on its own, and that stat is actually very hard to come by.

Singed has low damage, minimal mobility, and no way to deal with most lane matchups that aren't jax. Playing him is like trying build an airplane out of a rubber band and a paperclip while the fiora you're laning against has brand new jet. I used to be able to brush off the occasional riven, and I could handle being down until I got my ult, but new champs are so strong and trade so well that he cannot compete without a lucky fling into a minion wave or tower. If it weren't bad enough, his early mana is abysmal.

As of 5.16, this game has officially power creeped far enough that singed is no longer relevant.

11 Comments

NemeBro2 votes

http://champion.gg/champion/Singed

Seems to be doing okay to me.

Spicy Rice1 votes

The problem is that the average player base in plat + has played 138 games with him

NemeBro3 votes

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The problem is that the average player base in plat + has played 138 games with him

Yeah, and after 125+ games Singed players have higher win rates on average than the mains of most other champions. 58%.

For comparisons, Riven players with a similar amount of games have a win rate of 56.53%.

Budupops1 votes

u win

hgjkdlsaf jeldvb2 votes

it's funny, because when I bring up lux's winrate using that site, people disregard me.

Lugg2 votes

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Singed has low damage,

I lead in damage every game I play as Singed. He does INSANE DPS. I think you may not be building him correctly or playing him correctly. I can take him into any matchup top and win the majority of the time.

Cowgirl Ed1 votes

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I lead in damage every game I play as Singed. He does INSANE DPS. I think you may not be building him correctly or playing him correctly. I can take him into any matchup top and win the majority of the time.

This. I laugh everytime when I see singed with 8000 health and 400 armor and MR dealing 0 dmg and getting flamed for being useless

Blade of Justic1 votes

Just remember, "If all else fails, proxy."

Cowgirl Ed1 votes

Singed = Most balanced and fun champion in the game no way im reading your post mate

insaiyanbacca1 votes

lmao singed is honestly fine, if your getting destroyed in lane your enemies are probably way better at the game then you or your just bad at singed plus hes not supposed to be dominate early game because his late game can get so good. if you cant cs with singed's auto attacks that's a personal problem i can do that just fine. singed low damage? what are you on, cause i want some. i actually manage to get fed as singed and can do the most damage a good amount of the time. my conclusion here is your just bad at singed

ofart1 votes

Singed is a tad on the weak side (vs competent teams with kite and CC) but unplayable is a huge exaggeration. He's basically fine but rather niche.

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