Karma has officially sunk below Ryze to claim the throne as League's Weakest Champ in a main role.

Bladeleaf·6/19/2018, 10:57:31 PM·43 votes·13,162 views

Well done Riot. It's quite the achievement to Olaf a champion that strongly.

I know we've all been saying "No way they're gonna olaf anyone as badly as Ryze."

Boy were we wrong.

Extra credit is due for the Karma changes on the PBE.

Q: No Change. R-Q: No Change. W: No Change. R-W: No Change. E: No Change. R-E: No Change. R: No Change. Health: No Change Mana: No Change Armor and Resist: No Change

Can we all just take a moment to give Riot it's due appreciation. I may be speaking for myself here, but I sincerely love when the under-performing champion I main gets nerfed and has to wait several patches to make up the 10% difference between it and the highest preforming champions.

I guess I didn't want to play League for the next few weeks anyway.

67 Comments

HP Crookshanks6/19/2018, 11:19:01 PM54 votes

When Yasuo is weak: Gets hotfixed immediately. When Karma is weak: Gets nerfed even more.

I hate Riot's favoritism. [sg-shisa]

Alex h87216/19/2018, 11:17:58 PM13 votes

Galio is in that same dumpster, rip one of my 6 Mastery 7 champs lol

Azadethe6/20/2018, 12:19:19 AM11 votes

Bad comparison. Ryze isn't weak at all. He's just extremely challenging to play. There aren't too many point and click penta kills left in the game and Ryze is one of them, due to the runes spreading over minions/champs on near spammable skills. He can 2 skill kill in about .2 seconds. The problem is.... it takes the right order, and high APM's to accomplish.

IxtaliKing6/20/2018, 12:12:08 AM10 votes

I'm beginning to wonder if we're actually expected to wait 4-5 patches for Karma to be usable...

SwiftKitten886/20/2018, 1:40:57 AM7 votes

umm WUT?

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/karma/all

.. i mean sure thats a weak spot.. but you are trying to tell me shit about "weakest champion in a main role...

i haven't get to post this in a while...

https://i.imgur.com/NUYYw2d.png

when u tie for th 10th lowest win rate in the history of league... come talk to me.

sure u can have buffs. but don't starting talking like "weakest champ in main role "beating out X"

u know nothing of my pain...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPenzNoq97E

go take a look

remakoro6/20/2018, 1:26:38 AM7 votes

I completely abandoned her when they removed damage from R + E And ability to shield minions.

For me she turned into generic shield/poke bot. Not fun and not interesting at all.

Marshbouy6/20/2018, 2:39:08 AM3 votes

I was never a Karma main but I miss playing her. I never want to pick her because it always feels like I could pick someone better.

Sir Rouge6/20/2018, 1:18:28 AM3 votes

Cross our fingers she gets something on PBE tomorrow.

If not, I wonder what Meddler will say to justify this, unless he ignores it of course.

DuskDaUmbreon6/20/2018, 3:13:30 PM3 votes

Champion.gg says Karma has a 45% winrate midlane, but it also says it's not her main role. Her higher pickrate role is support, with a 46% winrate. Which puts her below Tristana ADC, who is less than .2% above Karma's midlane winrate, and ADC is Tristana's primary role, especially since she doesn't even show up anywhere else.

So your statement is factually inaccurate.

minus 25k6/20/2018, 5:17:25 AM2 votes

karma is only good in aram now

Shrek Luigi6/20/2018, 3:42:01 PM2 votes

Riot, why are you doing this to My Wife

CMoney556/20/2018, 8:19:51 PM2 votes

I was so surprised that riot decided to nerf her after she has been quite weak for many patches. She did not provide as much utility like other enchanters, and you could deal some damage with her, but you wouldn't wind up building much AP so you wouldn't output tons of damage. This is something I actually like about Karma, as you can deal some damage and support your team at the same time. However, due to the fact that she had been consistently weaker than almost all of the enchanters and mages for many patches, it almost seemed outlandish to nerf her. Janna and lulu got nerfs that made sense, but Karma? I'm sorry, whoever made that decision should not have gone through with it. She has hovered around a 47% win rate at best in solo queue from when I started playing league (around a year ago), and based on the numbers, she shouldn't have gotten nerfed.

So yes, she is the new ryze. And I totally agree that she got it worse than ryze. For god sakes her top lane win rate is 38% right now. So much for playing different champs in different places huh? I hope they fix this too because as one of the most forgotten and underperforming champs, she doesn't deserve this. Before, I willingly played Karma knowing that there were better supports out there. Now, she's just unplayable, and I haven't played league since she got her nerf. Please fix her Riot, we're begging you.

CoffeeAndSadness6/20/2018, 3:20:30 AM2 votes

Karma gets fucked once again " I disrupted my meditation for this?!" Karma

Bisaknosp6/21/2018, 11:37:03 AM1 votes

i honestly cant see how ryze is weak he can still demolish ppl and dominate the lane