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Blitzcranks passive

3ofGot40ve··114 votes·3,715 views

This is just something small, but I think it would be fair if blitzcranks 'R' passive only activates on neutral monsters if he is previously in combat with them. It can be annoying walking through the jungle to roam and then the gromp starts attacking you, especially if your already low and running to safety.

Edit: 12/29/2015

After seeing this many replies in under 24 hours, I think it is clear that this should be fixed.

Apocalypse Meow: I AGREE!

Deep Terror Nami: The worst is needing to go clear wards in Baron pit; you gotta Ult before you walk in XD

Luffy The Pirate: Don't get me started on frikken baron and dragon... Hello, just placing some vision... Baron: ROOAARRRR DRAGON: GET HIM.

Saianna: The same idea came up about 3 years ago.. Riot didn't care at all... So maybe now :)

Chespin2013: Yes please this needs to happen. Whenever I try to clear wards at drag/baron my passive will just go and they aggro me and deal damage to me that I have to leave or else I'll get caught by the enemy team.

F5 To Rethresh: On a more serious note, I would like to see this change (if possible).

J Moormann: Agree. I can't clear wards around Baron without ulting first or losing half my health to Baron.

67 Comments

Horse Grenades28 votes

I AGREE!

3ofGot40ve4 votes

I don't see any reason to disagree with this post unless you have some sort of unhealthy grudge against a Blitzcrank you have versed before :p

Canidae3 votes

I DISAGREE!

IS THERE A LEE SIN THREAD OF SIMILAR NATURE? I NEED TO DISAGREE ON THAT ONE TOO.

TwinkiePro18 votes

I have a very unhealthy grudge against Blitzcrank, so i hope he steal all that cs >.<

B1naryB0t6 votes

I have many unhealthy grudges against every single blitzcrank I have versed before.

Except for the garbage ones who suck at hooks, those guys are the comedy relief of LoL.

Crossette6 votes

Then they land one and become the biggest asshole alive even though they missed 100% of their hooks before.

Deep Terror Nami5 votes

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3ofGot40ve1 votes

What I mean is if your just walking through the jungle and your passive strikes them (without you using any abilities or auto tacks on them) Your passive should not start zapping them. This doesn't include walking near them with sunfire cape, obviously.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

I'm hungry and just got up, for some reason I thought you were talking about the shield part XD

3ofGot40ve2 votes

Oh your right, its his ult passive I was talking about not his normal passive xD. My bad. I will edit now.

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

The worst is needing to go clear wards in Baron pit; you gotta Ult before you walk in XD

3ofGot40ve2 votes

Just another reason to fix it :P

Lady Hammerlock1 votes

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What I mean is if your just walking through the jungle and your passive strikes them (without you using any abilities or auto tacks on them) Your passive should not start zapping them. This doesn't include walking near them with sunfire cape, obviously.

walking through river lalalalalalaala baron get struck by lightning....

Alleo2 votes

Was he.....thunderstruck?

SpecterVonBaren4 votes

I'd rather they just change it to something like

Passive: While Static Field is not on cooldown, when Blitzcrank is attacked by an enemy he lets out a bolt of lightning that deals magic damage to the attacker and all enemies between them (For 75% of the damage). This ability can not be triggered on the same target for 2.5 seconds.

Bolt Magic Damage: 50 / 100/ 150 (+ 20% AP)

Makes him much more of a threat as a tank since enemies attacking him will get zapped and if it's the ADC then they could end up dealing that damage to their allies. Also means you don't have to worry about taking your ADC's farm by accident so long as you don't draw minion agro.

Partholonian3 votes

I think this version is OP when multiple targets attack him at once (imagine him walking into a minion wave...) and should probably just be changed to "This ability can only be triggered once every X seconds" regardless of whether it's the same target or different targets.

Other than that, though, I think the idea has merit; making it tied to enemies fighting Blitz rather than just being around would solve the problems with jungle camps and accidental CSing.

Weathered3 votes

An example of a really cool feature and idea that fits the character but is not practical.

3ofGot40ve2 votes

I find it practical sometimes when ever I play AP Midcrank. If yor ever running after someone with low HP the zap can finish them off. Rarely do i play that role though so xD

PePsiLemoNN3 votes

So he can have no downsides , sure

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

Having only one method of gameplay isn't a downside? Being basically the worst assassin in League isn't a downside? Sure, he's annoying to lane against, but it's not like he's good. Hell, he can even hurt his team in some situations.

BluePolarizer1 votes

He is actually the best assassin in league since he still assassinates if he is 0-10 with coin, sightstone and boots.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

But he can't assassinate anything on his own. His level of assassination is less dependent on him and more on everyone else there.

BluePolarizer1 votes

that is true however that is often not relevant.

If he grabs an ADC, even if the rest of your team had zero items, you'll all have at least 100 base AD. Everyone collapsing on the ADC is doing 500 damage per 1 second as autoattacks alone, never mind the base damage from skills. The more fed your team is the wider range of targets you can assassinate.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

That's assuming that your entire team is there, making him the most team-reliant and most position-based assassin, as well as the most counterable by item 3363

BluePolarizer1 votes

like I said, that's in the extreme case of your team having zero items. Not even Doran's. The more items your teams has, the less people you need. EVERY champion in my elo is team dependent except maybe Rengar so that's not really an excuse. I mean, shit, not even my elo... how many times have you heard silvers complain "win lane lose game"? If your team doesn't react to a blitz grab there is nothing you can do for them.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

Yes, as you get more items, you need less people to assassinate. The point still stands that you need more than one person always.

LeBlanc kills things on her own. Zed kills things on his own. Zed, Fizz, Ahri, Talon, they all kill things on their own. Blitz really can't. Yes, every champion is team-reliant, but I said MORE team-reliant. As in, that's the only way you do jack squat in game.

ARequestOfDeath1 votes

so what your saying is that he cant 100-0 some one unless he has a teammate with him imma test that theory with item 3089 item 3285 item 3135 item 3001 item 3009 item 3003

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

Well that's not support Blitz. That's "I'm an asshole and I'm gonna use my skillshot and 30 second cooldown as the only thing that I do in game." He builds tank for a reason, because building AP really doesn't help your team as much as just using your abilities and being a wall later.

ARequestOfDeath2 votes

but full ap blitz has a lot of cc that is really helpful(he is a mid laner in my eyes)

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

A lot of single-target/close-range CC. And, as I mentioned before, his doing anything is based on whether or not he hits a skillshot. If he misses, he's not doing anything for a bit. As AP Blitz, you can do even less after you miss a hook. At least on Tank Support Blitz, you can run into battle and try to use your other CC and soak up some damage, but AP Blitz would be blown up before he got close enough to do that.

ARequestOfDeath1 votes

his ult has a aoe death cc

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

When you walk into close range. Which, as a carry, is a bad idea.

Mhihnj1 votes

Use that build, hook squishies , knock-up, aa, ult, bye. BUT if you miss ^ then....

Lun4Shy2 votes

"no downsides" Yeah because his W's slow down after the speed up is totally not a downside. The random CS stealing from an ally isn't a downside to his allies at all. The fact his main and really only ability that matters outside of peeling is a skill shot which so many champs can now dodge since everyone's getting dashes or hell, just getting a banshee's veil, these aren't downsides at all. I really feel Blitz might need some help, he's just a weaker, less useful Thresh at this point in life and when Thresh can peel, hook, slow, engage, disengage, shield allies, AND give them an avenue of escape, I think that's just a bit much for the poor bot too handle. I don't think he needs a rework as bad as some other champs but he could use a touch up man

Chespin20132 votes

Yes please this needs to happen. Whenever I try to clear wards at drag/baron my passive will just go and they aggro me and deal damage to me that I have to leave or else I'll get caught by the enemy team.

Br4ndon2 votes

I don't see any reason why we would ever need to buff blitz. This isnt a QoL change, he will be directly buffed by this change.

3ofGot40ve5 votes

How lol. Him walking through the jungle and not taking aggro like every other champion in the game is a buff?

Auz the Ripper1 votes

Technically speaking......

3ofGot40ve1 votes

Am I missing something here? xD

Auz the Ripper1 votes

it would be a tiny buff, as you would not lose the minuscule amount of health from the creeps' damage or be at risk of execution by them. Even though it's so small, Br4ndon, Highlord of Biasedness, is still technically right that it's a buff.

3ofGot40ve1 votes

You do know that I'm talking about his Ult passive not his normal passive right.

Auz the Ripper1 votes

well yeah, i'd be very surprised if mana barrier ever drew monster aggro.

3ofGot40ve1 votes

Oh alright. well don't take this in the wrong way but I don't understand how this would be a buff. You shouldn't have to take baron aggro to clear wards. I don't see an argument behind that.

Auz the Ripper2 votes

you'll have a bit more health when going through the jungle. It's almost a non-thing, but i'm a nerd on the internet and am physically compelled to point out semantics

Saianna2 votes

Title is slightly misleading.. I though you meant his innate passive, not his ultimate passive :)

Agree tho!

P.S. The same idea came up about 3 years ago.. Riot didn't care at all... So maybe now.. :)

3ofGot40ve1 votes

Yes i realized the title was off. However I did include in the description it was his ult passive. But yah, my bad.

The Deckowner2 votes

i think blitz ult passive should only proc on champion and maybe monsters if he is an jg blitz. playing him support and unintentionally stealing/fucking up the adc's farm is sad.

StealWolverine1 votes

That's what relic shield is for

Jacobofcourse2 votes

You are right. Jungle camps should agro anything that walks near them. How are you going to let someone walk right by you? On a more serious note, I would like to see this change (if possible).

Teslablade1 votes

I honestly kind of like it because it fits the thematic of having a field of static around him. It also balances out his low cool down ult.

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