My recent experience with S6 Ranked

ZILLAGULA·Jan 31, 2016·2 votes·1,253 views

Yeah, so I played through my 10 placement games, and it turned out very decent actually! I ended up with 9 wins and 1 loss, with positive scores in all of the games. Now the for the hillarious part: I ended up in Bronze IV. Yeah. I don't really know how, maybe it's because I didn't have good enough farm or I didn't play well enough in some way. I wrote down all my games, just so you guys can check 'em out! 14-5 Zed {Win} 12-7 Ahri {Win} 9-7 Fizz {Win} 12-9 Lee Sin {Win} 8-6 Ahri {Loss} 19-4 Zed {Win} 18-7 Zed {Win} 33-10 Zed {Win} 7-1 LeBlanc {Win} 10-5 Ekko {Win} If you guys have any suggestions to how I could have ended up in Bronze IV please leave it here!

Yeah I am really salty about this, but at the same time it was kind of funny.

9 Comments

NsEternalJan 31, 20162 votes

the main reason is because they purposely put you lower than usual to prevent people who got boosted to achieve a high rank if they didnt earn it. from your match history you should be able to leave bronze easily.

Mysticman89Jan 31, 20162 votes

Being placed lower than you (really) actually are can sometimes be a potential blessing in disguise, since going on a 10+ game win streak makes your mmr (and in turn, LP gains) go nuts, to the point where it'll overshoot and you'll get matched with people who are (really) better than you and you're expected to lose. If by small miracle you win, then there's sweet MMR gains to be had which makes division skipping quite a real possibility, and if you do lose, then at least your mmr is closer to where it 'should' be then without the win streak.

(This is admittedly silver lining, and obviously placing higher/closer to where you 'belong' is ideal, but the ability to overshoot can be fun as you briefly get matched with people with shinier borders then you feel you deserve.)

As for the 'why' though, your placement is entirely based on your final mmr. Placement matches are particularly influential on your MMR, but your MMR going in is still a pretty big influence, and also the MMRs of those in your game matters. If by the end of preseason your MMR had tanked to low bronze 5, it's potentially possible for someone to even go 10-0 and still place bronze 5 if their MMR was just that awful going in. Similarly, if you group with a bunch of low bronze MMR people, you may easily carry the games and win them all (as you're correspondingly matched vs bronze MMR groups), but the MMR gains would be minimal since you were expected to win them. If instead you group with a bunch of high gold MMR people, even going 5-5 could result in a bigger MMR increase than the 10-0 with bronzies.

In-game performance is not a factor for placements (or mmr determination), so going 10-0 despite personally having 1 cs/min and 0/10/0 kda in every game (maybe you had a diamond smurf in your games or something) is exactly the same as going 10-0 with 10+ cs/min and going 30/0/10 hard carrying every game. The champion mastery system would give you D-'s in the former case (or whatever the lowest is) and S+'s in the latter probably, but the champion mastery system is entirely separate from the ranked ladder.

Little Stick ManJan 31, 20161 votes

you usually drop 1 rank after placements, if you were silver in season 5 this makes sense

ZILLAGULAJan 31, 20161 votes

Yeah, but I actually improved a lot! I think that maybe riot should look at me as a new player when I play my placement games, instead of using my old stats But that's just my opinion, of course.

Little Stick ManJan 31, 20163 votes

if you improved a lot you'll be out of bronze in no time

ZILLAGULAJan 31, 20161 votes

Yeah, but I was just hoping for a bit higher so I could reach higher ranks in a shorter ammount of time! Well thanks for the encouragement. :)

Little Stick ManJan 31, 20161 votes

no problem, best of luck on the rift

KurokawaMasahiroJan 31, 20161 votes

With all due respect, this statement isn't remotely true. On my other account, I reached silver last season but didn't play for several months and came back to my account being bronze. I went 8-2 in provisionals. That placed me in Bronze V. Twenty games later, I'm still Bronze V. I've had things like Ashe supports, or a Jinx adc that fed graves 16 kills in 14 minutes. Every single game has at least one toxic player. Mute them, and they'll often keep prattling on (which I only know because my teammates are telling him to shut up and drop it), then THEY start fighting. Afkers are very real. I had three in one game ragequit. The plat and diamond smurfs come in on zed and go 30-2 on the brand mid. I've got to promotions twice only to have a troll/afk/feeder destroy the games. One may have been a legit loss: we just got beat fair and square. But it's 2 out of 3, so when the next game has an AFKer...or a feeder..or a smurf...you're done. It's a random crapshoot. People in the low bronze tiers do.not.care. They know they can't go lower, so every game is played with the attitude of "fuck it, looks like another loss of no actual significance, LETS BURN IT DOWN".

I'm creating this account to get it to level 30 and do provisionals again. If I place in Silver or better, which I should, I'll probably abandon the other account. It has nearly 100 skins on it, and I'm willing to walk away from it and all the money I put into it due to the absurd toxicity and inconsistency of placement matches in bronze.

Little Stick ManJan 31, 20161 votes

every single thing you listed that happens on your team is happening on the other team. you'll face teams with trolls, afks, and people who just don't know how to play. another aspect to this game, beyond the cs and mechanics, is teamwork. if you can't get 4 idiots to work together and follow you to victory, that's another aspect that keeps you in bronze. in this game at that elo, if you aren't vastly better than your opponents to the point where you don't need your team then you MUST be the leading force inspiring your team to follow you. that's how it is for everyone. even if you get placed in silver on your account, you'll be facing the same problems and be right back in bronze if you can't be what decides the game