Seriously? No grievous wound items for AD?

Darling Dolorosa·11/30/2014, 5:24:22 PM·8 votes·4,211 views

First no mana burn, now heal reduction is limited to mages and abilities? What counters WW, Xin, Nasus, and other champions who can lifesteal easily now?

15 Comments

Haunt11/30/2014, 6:14:41 PM2 votes

Let's be honest nobody was ever building Executioner's anyways.

CDMarco12/1/2014, 2:55:00 AM2 votes

There was nothing wrong with Executioner's Calling. People complained that the stats sucked but I never bought it for the stats, I bought it solely for the passive. It makes dealing with certain champs all the easier, 3 shot a Tryndamere as Shyvana after buying one because he thought he could just heal everything and didn't hit his ult. Trynd, Yi, Swain, Mundo, pretty much any champs that relies on the ability to out sustain you in a fight can't and it pretty much turned a late game WW into a non issue.

Maple Crusader1/12/2015, 4:50:36 AM2 votes

It would be nice if there was a new AD grievous wounds item. I can't stand Mundo and Volibear at top lane. Obnoxious as hell because they will build crap tons of health and there isn't any reliable way to weaken their absurdly fast healing unless I brought Ignite or play a champion with true damage.

JustMyBassCannon1/12/2015, 5:03:23 AM2 votes

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Let me teach you of the wonder that is Thornmail. It reflects damage based on the damage they would deal before Armor is accounted, so it's worth 30% of the damage--including Crits--before on-hit effects. It is also a chunk of +100 Armor, meaning you're going to take significantly less physical damage on-hit.

Oh, but the fun doesn't stop there. Unlike Thornmail, Lifesteal gains HP based on the damage actually dealt after Armor, so you're already reducing their life gain with that +100 Armor. Then, you're also reflecting damage to negate their self-heal.

It is almost impossible to have enough Lifesteal to heal past Thornmail's damage output in any realistic scenario. You would need 4 items to counteract its effectiveness on its own.

Or, if you're a Marksman/Assassin, simply building enough damage that their Lifesteal is pointless works.

M4nTiCoR311/30/2014, 5:39:04 PM1 votes

Nothing save morellonomicon, ignite, and the few counter pick champions with GW on their kits.

They did mention in the patch notes that some of the items removed may come back, albeit reworked and in a different form in the future. One can only hope an AD item with GW that is viable counter pick option is one of them.

Pryotra11/30/2014, 6:20:48 PM1 votes

GW is getting removed from the game. If not removed, nerfed heavily as a mechanic.

Morello has tipped his hand on this one. Grevious wounds has hurt how heals work in this game. Characters like mundo and Swain need out of line heals to remain relevant. As a result, after Grevious wounds kicks the bucket, they can then balance heals.