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Halcyn·3/8/2016, 3:07:13 PM·5 votes·771 views

The circle jerk has to stop.

I'm not a high elo player and I won't rank shame. I just need to get this off my back because I'd like to read the boards without reading about the following champions.

  1. Fiora - Lets get this straight. Fiora is NOT an op champion. Yea, she does a shit ton of damage, yes, she does get pretty tanky for how much damage she does, yes her ult is really good and her W is amazing when used correctly. But she isn't op. If she doesn't hit your vitals her damage is mediocre at best. If you get a vital in front of you, step back and wait for another. Don't use CC on her until she uses W. When she hits R, use a QSS. She's a laning phase bully and doesn't do well in team fights unless your against a fed or high elo fiora. If she gets fed chances are she can't play team fights at a low Elo and if you're at a high elo you're not complaning about fiora.

Lee Sin - Jesus Christ when people complain about this champ it tilts me. To play lee sin to his max potential, you have to be a god. And even then, you're left in awe about how well he played something. YOU ARE NOT PLAYING AGAINST LEE SIN IN LOW ELO. You are playing against a champ with a Q and an R and that's it. Lee is not even remotely close to the best jungler in the game and champs like Ekko Gragas Nid and Grag outshine him in every imaginable way.

Zed/Yasuo - yes, they are resourceless. Yes, if there is a good player on these champs you're in for a rough time. These champions are not OP however. Zed is lackluster in team fights and yas never builds tanky making them both easy to kill. They do snowball extremely hard however so if you do lose lane to them it's going to be rough. Their damage is amongst the highest in the game but they are squishy melee champions that can easily be focused and stopped.

Riven - This one is quick and easy. Riven is in a shit spot. Her itemization sucks, she wins almost no match ups and she's squishy as hell. Even players like box box and BRNA can't make her work. If you're losing to her, it's your fault.

I hope this clears things up. These champs are not OP. If you want OP champs, you should be complaining about poppy (who I main), lulu, lux and nautilus.

13 Comments

Ricky Spanish DC3/8/2016, 4:26:21 PM2 votes

Riven is balanced and so is Yasuo and Lee Sin-Fiora and Zed are just op. Fiora gets insane zoning potential with vitals, and having to stay in tower is not fair/reasonable counterplay to a champion, especially with the paper thin towers this season. A champion with mega damage shouldnt get mobility, tankyness, a heal, and the ability to block ANY ability in the game, even freaking summoner spells, as well as having cc. Fiora is strong at every Elo- from bronze to pro play. She is just way too strong right now.

Pharoh3/8/2016, 4:44:23 PM2 votes

Fiora still broken. No champion should have as much, utility, damage output, cc, mobility, and healing like Fiora does. I realize she's a tough champ to balance, but to say she is not at all in an overpowered position is a serious overstatement.

WeiseAzir3/8/2016, 3:12:04 PM1 votes

Downvoted this isn't even good bait

Dreadlocks3/8/2016, 3:41:45 PM1 votes

you might of had my love if you didn't use Fiora.. >.>

Neutronic13/8/2016, 3:47:20 PM1 votes

While I might appreciate you taking the time to write this, theres a high probability that most people wont notice or care. I don't mean this in a rude way either, what I mean is that the first thing about playing PVP games is SOMEONE has to lose. There has to be a loser, it's PvP . And when you have a loser it's pretty natural for people to feel frustrated or pissed and point fingers at specific things that caused them to lose.

I don't have to defend yas even though I main the living hell out of him ..because for as many people complaining about him I find just as many people complaining about another champ like teemo, or illaoi etc. League is a really rough community as Im sure you noticed.

My honest 2 cents of wisdom playing for 5 years, Mute All when playing outside of ranked. It reeeeeeeally does wondering on improving the "just play and enjoy it for what it is" (not what it's not) atmosphere.

Rain Smurff3/8/2016, 4:00:02 PM1 votes

There's different bans in different elos. It's all perspective. An "OP" champ to a diamond may not be an "OP" champ in silver or gold.

E.G: Twisted Fate This is obviously one example out of many. The reasoning behind this is peoples skill and how much output one can extract from a champion. You will never see a good TF in bronze or silver, however in the hands of a higher elo player, TF can be a nightmare.

This also comes from personal experience, I don't mind fighting my counter in the mid, but when you fight a good TF, its a headache.

I can agree with Lux and Lulu being very strong, however anyone in lower mmr brackets cannot play Lux or lulu to their full extent.

Vanic9983/8/2016, 5:39:26 PM1 votes

While I do agree that does champions are not op, you're being a hypocrite. The "op" champions vary by elo and player so you suggesting what you think is op at the end of your post is hypocritical. I don't think lulu and lux are op so you're circle jerking too.

Halcyn3/8/2016, 3:08:27 PM1 votes

And I realize zed uses energy and is not resourcless per say. He isn't gated in lane by energy is what I should have said. I am saying this before any comments but I'm sure someone will still point this out.

The JigSAW3/8/2016, 6:39:28 PM1 votes

Rammus Ok...

  1. Fiora. I like Fiora, I like using her and I can counter her usually depending on the player. But, the fact she deals max health % in true damage is just ridiculous, although its better than her old untargetable ult in which even a turret couldn't hit her while she killed three people under it. Is Fiora OP? The potential exists to get over 80% max health % in true damage on the ult/vital attacks so, I'd say yes. Again, stop her early and she's mostly toast, but if two or three people feed her, you are in trouble.

  2. I agree with Lee. People have so much irrational hatred of him it drives me nuts when there are far worse champions out there.

  3. Zed, agreed. YASUO? Most cancerous and worst designed champion of all time. You say he is squishy and easily killed? Good luck. If you use skillshots, he moves super fast because his E is on a 0.5 second cooldown at level 1. His Q can reach 5 1/2 body lengths away with the whirlwind, his W blocks projectiles and a few things it shouldn't, and he has a shield of hundreds of health just from moving. Add double crit chance and 50% bonus armor pen for 15 seconds on an ult that can drop to 29 seconds at level 3?? I'm sorry, this champ needs a nice big fat nerf right in the passive, ult, and E cast time. I actually beat a lot of Yasuos but my god are they ANNOYING to deal with and people act like using him makes them the best League player ever. My response is there's a ten year old kid who posts Youtube's about his Yasuo pentas... they aren't quite as proud of being a Yasuo main after that realizing a 5th grader can do the same exact thing with little training.

  4. Riven - Mostly agreed, although anybody who thinks she needs buffs are out of their mind. However, as long as she counters Yasuo so well, keep her strong!

VictoryDance963/8/2016, 3:10:30 PM1 votes

Fiora is a tough one to balance, but I generally agree with your analysis. Zed can actually be very strong in team fights; however, because he can get in and out better than any assassin if you work his mechanics.

Calm down and have an upvote. +1