Lucian is complete garbage now.

DestructoDave·Dec 7, 2016·5 votes·1,836 views

He just sucks. I'm def. not playing his ass next season. 550 games and I'm not subjecting myself to that trash.

21 Comments

FantasySniperDec 7, 20162 votes

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IPinPCDec 7, 20162 votes

I am happy he got nerfed. He was way too popular, every 2nd game somebody would pick him unless he would get banned. No we see more varieties on the lane.

God RaijinDec 7, 20161 votes

so do you enjoy playing against Caitlyn more now instead?

Aurelius MaximusDec 7, 20161 votes

so what was the point of this thread? What do you want?

DestructoDaveDec 7, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Owl My Heart,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ov7EaUrw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-12-07T07:41:38.653+0000)

so what was the point of this thread? What do you want?

To say he sucks. Hes a lane bully that loses lane and trades to anyone. He has no utility, no range, no poke anymore, doesnt scale, doesnt do anything but make you lose. He is basically useless, and his 45% winrate, lowest among ADCs, says it all. Hes just a trashcan champion. Yes, it pisses me off.

FioraWillCarryDec 7, 20163 votes

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To say he sucks. Hes a lane bully that loses lane and trades to anyone. He has no utility, no range, no poke anymore, doesnt scale, doesnt do anything but make you lose. He is basically useless, and his 45% winrate, lowest among ADCs, says it all. Hes just a trashcan champion. Yes, it pisses me off.

Funny you didn't complain when he was shitting on people nearly all of season 6 and people were crying for nerfs.

DestructoDaveDec 7, 20161 votes

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Funny you didn't complain when he was shitting on people nearly all of season 6 and people were crying for nerfs.

I didnt even play him during his ghostblade days. And, he was never OP. Go look at his damn win-rates. Even at his best hes rocking like 51%.

Aurelius MaximusDec 7, 20161 votes

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To say he sucks. Hes a lane bully that loses lane and trades to anyone. He has no utility, no range, no poke anymore, doesnt scale, doesnt do anything but make you lose. He is basically useless, and his 45% winrate, lowest among ADCs, says it all. Hes just a trashcan champion. Yes, it pisses me off.

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I mean what do you want to do about it? Whats the point of complaining without anything constructive said?

DestructoDaveDec 7, 20161 votes

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I mean what do you want to do about it? Whats the point of complaining without anything constructive said?

That is constructive. I mean what else is there to say? He sucks at everything. No poke, no range, no utility, poor scaling, poor stats. I mean damn just about ANYTHING would make him a better champion at this point. Hes just that bottom of the barrel bad.

Sir PoodleDec 7, 20161 votes

I think they mean, "what changes do you think would make him viable without making him too strong?" If you just say "he sucks" then that's not useful when there's a passive, four abilities and base stats, each with more working parts.

DestructoDaveDec 7, 20162 votes

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I think they mean, "what changes do you think would make him viable without making him too strong?" If you just say "he sucks" then that's not useful when there's a passive, four abilities and base stats, each with more working parts.

Its pretty obvious what would make him better. Revert nerfs he suffered because of Arpen items. Q range, Q scaling to start. He didnt even have a high win-rate when Crit build WAS his build. So now, hes a nerfed version of the mediocre crit ADC he was before.

Hell, its about time he got re-evaluated on his 500 range. What in his kit now, justifies 500 range? His ult is short, his Q is short, his scalings suck, his mobility is meh. He has zero utility. His stats are bad. What in his kit, justifies 500 range now? Vayne/Ezreal/Kalista all have longer range, and similar to equal mobility. Sivir has utility, and scales better.

If hes going to be a pure damage ADC, with zero utility, zero range, he damn sure better have damage. Right now he has nothing, except mobility that other, BETTER ADCs have equally.

Kaisa is HotDec 7, 20161 votes

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To say he sucks. Hes a lane bully that loses lane and trades to anyone. He has no utility, no range, no poke anymore, doesnt scale, doesnt do anything but make you lose. He is basically useless, and his 45% winrate, lowest among ADCs, says it all. Hes just a trashcan champion. Yes, it pisses me off.

Lucian does nor have the lowest winrate among adc's :( R.I.P. my bae Kalista... Glory season 4-5....

DestructoDaveDec 7, 20161 votes

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Lucian does nor have the lowest winrate among adc's :( R.I.P. my bae Kalista... Glory season 4-5....

You do know hes lower than Kalista on Champion.gg and Op.gg right?

Kaisa is HotDec 9, 20161 votes

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You do know hes lower than Kalista on Champion.gg and Op.gg right?

You're missing an important factor. Kalista is far underplayed compared to Lucian, if she was played more she would prbably have like a 40% W/R

FioraWillCarryDec 7, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Owl My Heart,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ov7EaUrw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-12-07T07:41:38.653+0000)

so what was the point of this thread? What do you want?

God RaijinDec 7, 20161 votes

I feel like they need to buff his auto attack range to make him viable. I mean since the black cleaver ghost blade build got nerfed, they basically are saying he needs to be more reliant on autos rather than his 100-0 ult. So I think more range would makes sense on him this season

DestructoDaveDec 7, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=God Raijin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ov7EaUrw,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-12-07T08:48:03.716+0000)

I feel like they need to buff his auto attack range to make him viable. I mean since the black cleaver ghost blade build got nerfed, they basically are saying he needs to be more reliant on autos rather than his 100-0 ult. So I think more range would makes sense on him this season

Well he is absolute trash right now. He cant beat anyone in lane. He has no poke anymore, he has no all-in potential, he has no range. His scaling is terrible. I mean damn every single thing about him is bad right now except his mobility, and even then its not any better than someone like Vayne, or Ezreal, etc. who pay far less for it than he does. What in his kit constitutes such poor range, utility, poke? Hes a 100% damage ADC with no damage, and no range to do it with. I mean its pitiful how bad he is right now. I'm playing him some right now to get it out of my system before I just replace him with Ez/Vayne/Jhin/Cait, hell every other adc. I'm not lying when I say hes just worse then all of them; I dont even need the stats. I play them all. Every game I play him, if I was ANYONE else, I would be 100x more impactful, useful, better laning, you name it. There isnt a single instance Ive played him where he was anywhere near what I should be playing. Hes not even fun anymore to boot. I mean he took massive nerfs because of a build, and he is now an even worse version of the mediocrity he was when you built him crit; which wasnt amazing then.

God RaijinDec 7, 20161 votes

Yeah, I agree, he used to be much more of a "special snowflake" with his constant dashing around when he actually did damage, but now there are just better mobile champions who deal more damage, have better poke, have CC, longer ranges....basically the meta champs now do almost everything better than him. Like honestly, right now, riot should undo almost every nerf that they've ever made to him; to have him even come close to competing with shit like Caitlyn . (Particularly all of his range nerfs to skills and autos)

Hayaishi2Dec 7, 20161 votes

Lets see if fervor buffs help him.

Violent HunterDec 8, 20161 votes

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Lets see if fervor buffs help him.

They don't.... Still playing him since he is my main but the buff hasn't helped a whole lot.

I say buff his passive. Up it to 40 50 60 70 from the 30 40 50 60

DestructoDaveDec 8, 20161 votes

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They don't.... Still playing him since he is my main but the buff hasn't helped a whole lot.

I say buff his passive. Up it to 40 50 60 70 from the 30 40 50 60

I'm only going to play him in Flex Q. No point in just pissing away games when I can just play Ezreal, my first main, or Jhin who is fun and actually do well instead of just giving games away. But, I'll still play him in Flex Q. I've played about 550 games on his ass over the last 2 years. This is as bad as he has ever been.