Am I the only who hopes H2k loses?

DestructoDave·Oct 16, 2016·8 votes·1,129 views

Anyone else? Personally, I'm tired of hearing from EU fans how god-like they are. EDG looked like complete garbage the entire tournament, and they didn't have a single Korean or NA team in their group, yet at every turn its like listening to a TSM fan talk about how amazing they play and how good they are, and how they can win it all.

I mean, by now if there was an NA team in that group in place of H2k, I would be fully aware how bad that group was, and how my team probably isn't as strong as I think they are, considering how bad the only other DECENT team in the group, EDG, was.

Honestly, its pretty annoying and nothing would make me happier than to watch ANX win today.

19 Comments

RickettsOct 17, 20168 votes

Why do people mention MSI? It's a totally different tournament that proves nothing.

EU has ups and downs from year to year at Worlds. For EU, a good year is a team representing their region in Semis. For NA a good year is anyone escaping groups.

ShadòwOct 16, 20162 votes

bruh.

the only NA team that came out went 3-3 and got demolished by Samsung. and that's only because of the help of SKT.

DestructoDaveOct 16, 20163 votes

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bruh.

the only NA team that came out went 3-3 and got demolished by Samsung. and that's only because of the help of SKT.

They at least faced a Korean team. Point is, H2k fans are acting like TSM fans when EDG looked terrible and H2k hasnt faced a single decent team yet.

Im not lying; if H2k loses to ANX, with Likkrit being sick and having to drive all the way across the country, I'm going to laugh my ass off. Because people are acting like H2k are world beaters right now and they havent faced ANYONE. It is seriously the equivalent of some TSM fans. Its at that level.

ShadòwOct 16, 20164 votes

yea but thing is..

EU > NA

CJ Entus ApdoOct 16, 20162 votes

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yea but thing is..

EU > NA

LCK>LPL>eu=na

TurquoiseYoshiOct 16, 20165 votes

EU 2nd place beats LPL 1st place 2-1. EU 3rd place ties LPL 2nd place 1-1. LPL>EU

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BigBellBruteOct 16, 20161 votes

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yea but thing is..

EU > NA

BWAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah that's why you're 0-4 against NA this worlds and have the worst winning percentage in group stage of any region while NA was #2. NA>>>EU. Heck. Immortals could beat ANY of your worlds teams and they didn't even make it.

Oh wait. I suppose congrats are in order for your #1 and #3 tying with Brazil for last place.

Face it. The only team left from EU got the cream puff draw of the tournament and hasn't had to face a single team from Korea.

Gaxx DOct 17, 20163 votes

All the haters keep going on about how easy H2K had it. Yeah, they had the easy group to GET OUT AS THE SECOND SEED. Need I remind you, that EDG was hailed as a TOP3 team before the tournament? Everyone had them as clear favorites, most likely going 6:0 in the group. Yet H2K got out as the first place seed, and that's the reason they haven't met any Korean teams. It wasn't a conspiracy, like you morons seem to think. Did they get lucky? Hell yeah. Did they deserve to get lucky? Hell yeah. They went 4:0 in the second week, 2:0 against supposedly TOP3 team in the world. Yes, EDG didn't play as well as many people expected, but neither did G2, TSM, ROX OR FUCKING SKT. NONE of these teams played like they were supposed to. And guess what? Samsung is a good team, but their biggest strength lies in picking up fights around objectives, specifically baron. They didn't have to show that much during this tournament, because they were always leaving the laning phase with advantages (one exception was first SSG vs TSM game, and see how it ended). And if you expect this to happen against H2K, you're in for a ride. I'm not saying, that H2K are guaranteed to win or anything - they have yet to show they can stay consistent in their play (though they're on the right track). But on the best day for H2K, they're far better team than SSG on their best day. And I hope they do show up in semis, just so I can rub it in the face of all the EU haters, who hate simply because EU consistently does better than NA, when it's Worlds time.

ShadòwOct 17, 20161 votes

0-10 never forgetti

Gaxx DOct 16, 20162 votes

I don't know where are you looking to find comments about H2K being godly. They have huge ceiling, but they're mighty inconsistent. If you look at these boards you'll see a lot of Americans hoping that H2K loses, probably not realizing, that when that happens, NA will be HISTORICALLY THE WEAKEST REGION IN THE WORLDS. That's right, you'll have a wildcard team in the semis, while NA teams failed to get past quarterfinals. So go on, scream your lungs out and cheer for ANX, because you hate EU LCS teams, and if ANX manage to win, the most embarassed region in LoL will be NA.

DestructoDaveOct 16, 20162 votes

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I don't know where are you looking to find comments about H2K being godly. They have huge ceiling, but they're mighty inconsistent. If you look at these boards you'll see a lot of Americans hoping that H2K loses, probably not realizing, that when that happens, NA will be HISTORICALLY THE WEAKEST REGION IN THE WORLDS. That's right, you'll have a wildcard team in the semis, while NA teams failed to get past quarterfinals. So go on, scream your lungs out and cheer for ANX, because you hate EU LCS teams, and if ANX manage to win, the most embarassed region in LoL will be NA.

Does it really matter? NA made it to finals at MSI and people still rated them less than EU.

And I dont hate EU LCS teams; I would like to see the Korean overlords lose. But at the same time, the amount of delusion H2k fans are on right is crazy.

I mean a damn group draw saved your region from one of the biggest collapses and embarrassments ever. G2 and Splyce, facing actual competition, went 2-10. And, if ANX wins, its going to show just how weak EU was overall.

At this point I dont care. I like it when TSM loses, because of their fans, and I'd love it if H2k loses, because of their TSM-like fans.

LauchmelderOct 16, 20164 votes

This is funny for the sole reason that NA has to gulp down the pill they constantly try to force EU to eat.

The irony is strong in this one.

John AranOct 16, 20162 votes

Can you please show where you found "H2k fans" saying "how god-like they are" ? Cause right now it sure looks like you're making up stories to justify some NA salt towards EU. I haven't seen anyone say h2k are god-like.

Oh yeah let's not forget ANX had the 1st korean seed and an NA seed and still ended 4-2, wich is better than all 3 NA teams. Looks like having a korean team in group isn't a good enough excuse.

TurquoiseYoshiOct 16, 20161 votes

Sorry, that was me.

DestructoDaveOct 16, 20162 votes

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Can you please show where you found "H2k fans" saying "how god-like they are" ? Cause right now it sure looks like you're making up stories to justify some NA salt towards EU. I haven't seen anyone say h2k are god-like.

Oh yeah let's not forget ANX had the 1st korean seed and an NA seed and still ended 4-2, wich is better than all 3 NA teams. Looks like having a korean team in group isn't a good enough excuse.

Its a good enough excuse for why ANX is probably a pretty decent team. Possibly, better than H2k. They faced tougher competition to get here. But all over reddit and the net is nothing but h2k hype for beating a weak EDG team and having possibly the easiest group of any of the teams.

Colombo16Oct 17, 20163 votes

So if ANX is a "pretty decent team" and H2K just smashed them 3-0, does that mean H2K is actually decent? Or is it still that they have faced mediocre to bad teams and got "lucky"?

DestructoDaveOct 17, 20161 votes

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So if ANX is a "pretty decent team" and H2K just smashed them 3-0, does that mean H2K is actually decent? Or is it still that they have faced mediocre to bad teams and got "lucky"?

Welp, looks like they weren't a good team. Also, they didnt do much of their wild stuff, and Likkrit has Chicken Pox and had to travel by land to get to Chicago. Meaning, he spent this entire time riding across America AND hes sick.

They at least have to face a damn korean team for god's sake. I mean damn. Is that so much to ask? They had a group, with a weak LMS team, an IWC team who performed like an IWC team, a G2-like EDG playing terrible. I mean hell in what world are they supposed to get praised as a world-beater for that? And then of all things, they draw freaking ANX for their semi's. They legit made it to semi's without facing a single NA or KR team. People can badmouth NA all they want, but they were decently strong in groups, finishing 2nd in win-rate. So H2k bypassed the 2 winningest regions all the way to semi's. God forbid no one praises them like the 2nd coming of jesus until they face some Koreans so people can actually get a decent litmus test on how strong they actually are.

I mean in the group stages, people didn't even ban poppy vs ANX until the last 2 games. You also have to realize, that group A had 3 days of rest before their 2nd day compared to other groups.

The bottom line is if H2k beats SSG, they can have all the praise they want in the world. Until then, its hard to heap a lot of praise on a team who seemed to be gifted a semifinal birth. It kinda sucks for them that there is that stigma, but thats what bad group stage draws do. Which is why I think there needs to be some changes next world to a system where you can at least see every region face someone from another region. Maybe give IWC and LMS another team apiece, and then there are 6 teams, and each group has 1 team from every region. That way you dont have teams getting screwed by draws, like say Splyce, and teams getting gifted draws, like say H2k.

I mean look at this travesty of a quarterfinal. It was possibly the worst one ever. It wasnt like H2k even played immaculate; it was ANX played like a true wildcard team.

Colombo16Oct 17, 20164 votes

Honestly, I think that even if H2K beats SSG, you'll still have the excuse of SSG having either underperformed or not up to scratch compared to SKT or ROX. Granted, SSG is probably going to win the semi final, but you have to give credit where credit is due. H2K is the only european team playing at the level they've played at over the summer split (maybe even better), it's G2 that has underperformed. I think all the hate they're getting is from people seeing EU as a weak region and not actually acknowledging that the have good teams. Yes, EU is weak this year, but their top 3 teams are the same level of the NA top 3 teams.

BeatzBoyFTWOct 17, 20161 votes

For the love of god, why H2K? I mean seeing Rox winning is fine too, but SKT & SSG already had their Championship, let the other two teams get a chance.