Botlanes who never come to dragon

DestructoDave·12/28/2019, 2:36:32 AM·24 votes·10,831 views

This has to be one of the most tilting things I'm experiencing swapping to Jungle. I mean, I dont get it. Dragons are OP this season, and it never fails that you gank their lane, or you kill the enemy jungler, or you do anything that guarantees you a dragon, and they just leave you to try and solo it for 10 years while they just have a staring contest with the remaining botlane or they just slow push their lane or they back.

And then the enemy mid might run you off dragon, maybe the jungler respawns, god knows what, maybe the support comes up in a different scenario, your b otlane juste refuses to react. What happens is you end up having to pull off, they end up dying to something, and then the enemy gets your free dragon.

I just cannot wrap my mind around this. Its like every game. This is the most tilting aspect so far of jungling to me.

32 Comments

XzMln12/28/2019, 12:19:34 PM6 votes

Or your toplaner running ignite and not being able to help ever making it a constant 4v5

Mártir12/28/2019, 1:45:05 PM3 votes

Or sometimes its the Jungler that doesnt wanna contest Drake, when we as a Botlane are destroying the enemy one, pretty much being Free Dragon ;)

RyzeRework12/28/2019, 5:26:52 PM3 votes

Yeah dude... this makes me cry. I go gank bot kill jungle and bot. But then noone wants to get the fucking dragon lol I spam ping

stealthstyle7512/28/2019, 10:54:40 PM3 votes

Buy pink wards Have better lane knowledge Gank more Keep track of their jungler Then do dragon Don't force dragon please, I'm a jungle main and I understand that lanes need to establish dominance first because of CS, kills, and tower gold. You can always try to sneak dragon with a pink ward but for the love of God dont force suicide dragon and blame your team

NelsieLisnen12/28/2019, 2:10:04 PM2 votes

What you wrote shows that you don't understand bot pressure. Dragons are EASIER to 1v1 after the changes. The role of bot is to get prio, not hold your hand while taking dragon. If bot is in the process of harassing the enemy out and pushing for farm denial/plates, then asking them to drake with you is not worth their time, the bot gold/XP they can earn is much more valuable. Let them keep bot pressure while you solo and remind them to keep their eyes on drake. You need to be aware of the state of your teammates experience and goldwise. If mid is severely pushed in and the enemy mid ahead, then asking your bot to group in a tight spot will lead to them getting collapsed all that much easier. The moment you are aware that the enemy jungle can't make it in time and if your lanes can follow up if you get collapsed, that's the moment to get drake. If your bot decides to abandon lane while they have prio that's their mistake alright, but you should also read the shift in priority and concede drake if you have to, rather than calling for an unlikely grouping.

General Esdeath 12/28/2019, 8:07:30 PM2 votes

My bot lane walked past me when I was at dragon to roam mid and the enemy bot followed them, saw me, killed me, and took the dragon that was at 1500 HP. A piece of me died that day.

Ambitious Minnow12/28/2019, 5:59:26 PM2 votes

My favorite lately is with Kindred. I'll gank the enemy jg at their second buff right at 3 minutes. Then I can take scuttle, or sometimes gank mid. So I gank mid, help them win lane, then ping for help at marked scuttle, because of course enemy jg wants to prevent a secure mark/snowball situation, and I of course just used most of resources on two ganks. EVERY FUCKIN TIME, my mid laner ignores 10 - 20s of "Help Me" pings until I die on river collapsed on by enemy jg and the teammate that actually helped them.

They supposedly moved the scuttle spawn time back so laners "could assist" with them. What a fuckin joke that turned out to be.

Shleelpboy12/29/2019, 5:07:48 AM1 votes

I swear to god I can't agree with you.... this season is bot lane feed lane.

spookdegrace12/29/2019, 8:12:37 AM1 votes

Borland staying to shove a wave in lieu of taking dragon is def a tilter

14daysuspensionk12/29/2019, 6:11:56 PM1 votes

This happened, my bot said that I couldn't take drake with their bot alive (we were wrecking their bot btw) but I stil lwent to drake, got close to killing it with no help when suddenly their jungler comes to steal it, granted I was ready to smite but then I doubted he would actualyl come and so I lost the bot. And the botlane never came to help me secure it or anything.

LordGeovanni12/29/2019, 8:05:18 PM1 votes

Frankly i blame Pros streamers and youtubers the only advice they ever give is stay safe and farm and ive pointed this out several times. They out line what they would want other people around them to get them ahead and keep the foucs on them, not what actually gets you ahead when you play the game.

TekkenPlayer12/31/2019, 4:09:51 PM1 votes

Theres also the jungler that starts dragon without bot lane priority, so he gets collapsed on and dies by 3 people. Then theres the mage mid that goes against a skirmishy assassin matchup, tries to help the jungler and then gets oneshot. Forcing dragons sometimes throws games

xHeimtechZX12/31/2019, 4:58:09 PM1 votes

Ungrateful bot lanes. Even when I play top, I sometimes help dragon. Its a little harder when playing Darius tho because I always go Flash Ghost but eh...sometimes I manage to get there. Like if bot is getting pushed in, I might as well show up. Its a team game, can't let my bot lane lose and spiral out of control. Yes, junglers could solo drake, but its more about securing drake and also lowering the amount of time used to take down a drake. Don't want the jungler to get too low health or take too long so the enemy jungler doesn't come steal it. Our jungler helps around the map, we need to help them too. When I do get autofiled jungle, I would try soloing drake when I see the enemy jungle top side or something.

Thefrostyviking12/28/2019, 12:31:02 PM1 votes

You can see dumb shit from random people in any lane.

A couple days back i was playing Aatrox toplane, my jungle nunu got caught in a early invade and enemy Renekton got the kill and proceeded to be stronger in lane for it.

I somehow make it to level 7 when he is level 8 when suddenly that Nunu comes in to gank while being level 5, he rams straight into the renekton who was busy backing off thanks to a ward while i had been pinging Nunu to stop the entire way.

I had started to run in despite of that so i reached not longer after, maybe like 2-3 seconds but in that time Nunu died, then Renekton killed me as well and i was blamed for it.

10/10 jungler right there, and i´ve had a lot of similar cases, like a level 8 lee sin with 70% health and no finished item trying to solokill a full hp level 11 Garen with trinity force.

....

So yeah, people who act like this pop out everywhere, all one can do is try to keep calm and carry on.

Sir Saltarin12/28/2019, 3:31:16 PM1 votes

Sue me.

DatCheeseGuy12/28/2019, 6:32:30 PM1 votes

This is 90% of my games ADC and Supports

IceKingChernobog12/28/2019, 9:07:06 PM1 votes

Losing drag to the enemy midlaner cause bot doesn’t want to help you even whem you successfully ganked their lane and pinged drag. I die a little inside.

JRobin3112/28/2019, 9:49:55 PM1 votes

Taking Dragon is not always that simple as far as I can tell. For example, when I played Talon mid and saw enemy jungle Warwick grouping with his team to take dragon, I roamed down and solo killed Warwick at dragon.

When I play support and I see my jungler starting dragon, I hesitate to help immediately because doing so often leads to a skirmish that loses lives and loses dragon because someone has to lose a lot of life to tank dragon. I will wait until the dragon loses a significant portion of health and then go help because I can be reasonably assured that we will take dragon before other lanes roam to interfere. If I go immediately, it signals the enemy team to roam to dragon and they often show up to contest.

If I jungle, I will start dragon if certain conditions are fulfilled and often one of those conditions will be that I can solo the dragon if I have to. As a jungler, I often don't want to have to depend on my teammates to help because often they might not help. As a jungler, I would prefer my teammates to help after I've put some significant damage down on dragon, because if they come immediately, the enemy laners often come as well to contest and things get messy. Sometimes they attack dragon and the enemy laners kill them. Sometimes they fight the enemy laners while tanking dragon. Usually, they alternate back and forth between the two. If my laners are stronger than the enemy laners it is much more likely to turn out well. If my laners are not doing so well against their counterparts, it is much more likely to end badly.

Hi im 1212/29/2019, 12:52:43 AM1 votes

the bot lanes that go 0-10 in lane and say "jungle diff, why didn't you get drags?"