Why don't people build veigar tankish?

hunterspec··4 votes·685 views

Like a Apish nasus? you can build several tank items and still one shot anyone.

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ChaddyFantome3 votes

I do. People dont because they are greedy. AP builds with Deathcap snowball way harder with his passive.

Sasogwa2 votes

Because it doesn't really greatly increase his survivability. Veigar's survivability is increased more with a item 3157 than with a real tank item due to how squishy he innately is. It's not gonna work. Also his damage per second output is not comparable to Nasus. Veigar has a 0.6 AP ratio on Q, 1 ratio on W and 0.75-1.5 ratio on R.

Effectively R is used only once in teamfights. Q is used every 5 seconds, and W every 8 seconds. Let's ignore cdr cause Nasus as well can build cdr, so the calculation is rescaled to be the same.

Nasus Q is 4 sec CD. He get 3 stacks per creep killed, so basically his scaling per creep is 0.75 damage / second

Veigar's is 0.6/5 + 0.8/8 = 0.22 damage / second + a burst of .75/1.5 on ult

In Veigar's defense, he stacks on more than just creeps and can double stack. But even then. His scaling is much lower ; and Nasus has WAY better defensive statistics than Veigar. With his ult and base stats, it's like he has 2 defensive items more than Veigar, without needing anything.

I have tried it. Before and after rework. Had fun, but it never quite scaled to be impressive, unless I was spectacularly farmed.

Tbh in very late game I tend to build a bit of defense so as to be able to deliver my burst without dying beforehand, but that's it. I'd typically run item 3020 item 3165 item 3089 item 3135 item 3157 item 3102 .

hunterspec1 votes

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Because it doesn't really greatly increase his survivability. Veigar's survivability is increased more with a item 3157 than with a real tank item due to how squishy he innately is. It's not gonna work. Also his damage per second output is not comparable to Nasus. Veigar has a 0.6 AP ratio on Q, 1 ratio on W and 0.75-1.5 ratio on R.

Effectively R is used only once in teamfights. Q is used every 5 seconds, and W every 8 seconds. Let's ignore cdr cause Nasus as well can build cdr, so the calculation is rescaled to be the same.

Nasus Q is 4 sec CD. He get 3 stacks per creep killed, so basically his scaling per creep is 0.75 damage / second

Veigar's is 0.6/5 + 0.8/8 = 0.22 damage / second + a burst of .75/1.5 on ult

In Veigar's defense, he stacks on more than just creeps and can double stack. But even then. His scaling is much lower ; and Nasus has WAY better defensive statistics than Veigar. With his ult and base stats, it's like he has 2 defensive items more than Veigar, without needing anything.

I have tried it. Before and after rework. Had fun, but it never quite scaled to be impressive, unless I was spectacularly farmed.

Tbh in very late game I tend to build a bit of defense so as to be able to deliver my burst without dying beforehand, but that's it. I'd typically run item 3020 item 3165 item 3089 item 3135 item 3157 item 3102 .

uh you are trolling right? "it doesn't increase his survivability"

you could get focused in a team fight die instantly and lose the game because of it.

Leo10241 votes

Magikarp used the build in a video and it worked really well, even against nasus

Violet Fields1 votes

After item 3089 , item 3020 , and item 3135 , I build item 3075 , item 3102 , and item 3742 .

Feels bad man...

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Unstoppable Monk1 votes

Because people are dicks and will flame while feeding the enemy team over your warmongs or something.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

veigar is ranged and bursty. unless he faces a heavy engage comp, he can easily afford to build squishy, while nasus has to build to survive through longass fights. nasus simply doesnt have the option of building squishy. if he had, he would.

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