I want to actually play this game.

GigglesO·Apr 11, 2018·84 votes·17,650 views

I'm tired of playing so passively that I make sleeping look active.

I'm tired of just sitting under tower doing nothing all fucking game or stomping so hard that I don't even notice the enemy lane.

That isn't playing the fucking game. That is fucking being afk.

LOWER THE FUCKING DAMAGE. IT IS NOT HEALTHY TO KILL SOMEONE IN 1-2 SECONDS.

I accidentally took grasp the other day. I healed for 66 damage in a 25 minute game... That is right, all fights were under 4 seconds, and I was against a ranged champ so I didn't get to use it in lane.

91 Comments

Final Spark LuxApr 11, 201849 votes

1-2 seconds? That's a pretty long fight for today's standard. Just earlier today, I got killed by a 1/9 elise in .17 seconds : ). Yep : ). 1/9 : ). .17 Seconds from that 1/9 Elise : ). This game is wonderful : ).

eye twitch

I agree, the game would feel much better if fights lasted longer than the duration of a blink. Plz Rito ._.

Edit: I went back through the replay, and she was actually 1/6 at the time she killed me. I don't have a way of recording a replay atm without lag : ( but I can assure you death recap said 100% of the damage was from her in .17 seconds without being chunked prior : ).

Interactive gameplay is so fun : ). Everything is just great : ).

more eye twitches for reliving that moment

######No sarcasm, I do really like league even in it's broken state, but I just think it would be enjoyable to have decent length teamfights again.

Edit 2: A lot of people don't believe me / want a replay. I can't atm, but I might be able to use someone elses computer to get one later. Will see what I can do.

DisembarkApr 11, 201818 votes

Umm replay?? 1/9 Elise 1-shorting people. I feel like we’re missing some crucial info here.

Underleveled support? Already chunked a little?

Edit: also trusting death recap for anything. Lol.

It Hertz When IPApr 11, 20183 votes

She could have been farming like crazy. 1/9 isn't that bad if there's like 210 CS behind it.

SpecterVonBarenApr 12, 20182 votes

1/9 also doesn't tell us how many assists she has. For all we know she had been like The Flash and been ganking constantly and getting her lanes ahead and had 22 assists when he got killed.

ThefrostyvikingApr 11, 20186 votes

Something is truly missing here, there is no way a normal 1/9 elise can kill anything.

pZoCeDonnaApr 11, 20183 votes

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1-2 seconds? That's a pretty long fight for today's standard. Just earlier today, I got killed by a 1/9 elise in .17 seconds : ). Yep : ). 1/9 : ). .17 Seconds from that 1/9 Elise : ). This game is wonderful : ).

eye twitch

I agree, the game would feel much better if fights lasted longer than the duration of a blink. Plz Rito ._.

Edit: I went back through the replay, and she was actually 1/6 at the time she killed me. I don't have a way of recording a replay atm without lag : ( but I can assure you death recap said 100% of the damage was from her in .17 seconds without being chunked prior : ).

Interactive gameplay is so fun : ). Everything is just great : ).

more eye twitches for reliving that moment

######No sarcasm, I do really like league even in it's broken state, but I just think it would be enjoyable to have decent length teamfights again.

Sorry, not buying it.

While I do agree that damage is out of control, I want to see your replay of a 1/6 Elise killing you in .17 seconds. League has a replay system, it's very easy to create a replay and upload it. People that say "oh, but my computer lags" or "I don't know how" are using excuses and attempting to cover up their lie.

As always, I offer $100 if you can produce said replay and the scenario is as you described it. So long as you are a simiar level (with 1 either way), similar farm/gold as well.

I'd love to see it . Of course, I won't see it, because it doesn't exist. People on the Boards tend to lie, especially when describing episodes that happen in game. Not one of these claims has ever been substantiated by a replay, but I'll wait.

PePsiLemoNNApr 11, 20186 votes

In your last game against Elise you were Lux , didn't start building MR till the 4th item and Elise had item 3916 item 3020 item 3135 . Also you were supp so probably lower level than her.

Final Spark LuxApr 11, 20183 votes

Indeed, I got full combo'd and didn't have any MR. We were both level 12 and I was extremely squishy. I knew if I got caught (which I was in a really stupid way x3) that I'd die, it's just mind boggling how she was able to kill me in the time span of .17 seconds while she was 1/6. She did have boots and the item 3916 at the time, but she didn't have void staff (not that it was needed).

I'm not complaining about it, it's just really surprising that a 1/6 elise can kill something that fast : ).

Starcraft243verApr 12, 20182 votes

The fact she is 1-6 doesnt actually change anything.

A full stuff 0/500/0 Draven is no less dangerous than a full stuff 500/0/0 Draven.

KDA is irrevelant.

Final Spark LuxApr 12, 20182 votes

Except she didn't even have one finished item aside from her jg item. KDA is relevant because it indicates that she's behind, which she was all game.

Starcraft243verApr 12, 20181 votes

Are you puting a bet on a math-check ? :) Do you trust the death recap this much ?

GigglesOApr 12, 20181 votes

I'd trust the death timer for anything that auto bursts you.

Yaśuo MainApr 12, 20182 votes

I guess you just read the 200 magic damage done by a username and continue on with your day casually.

GigglesOApr 12, 20181 votes

Yep, maybe if they could fix their death recap we would know what we actually want to complain about. That is besides high damage.

KetiApr 13, 20181 votes

there's no scaling MR anymore, so if you didn't build any and elise has some pen then you're taking true damage.

GigglesOApr 13, 20181 votes

Lets not forget that we can't do anything to survive lane phase either. No flat armor.

KetiApr 13, 20181 votes

Eh, mages got their scaling hp yellows in their base stats

GigglesOApr 14, 20181 votes

Where did I get like 100 hp in base stat readjustments?

aqours fanboyApr 11, 20183 votes

if a 1/9 elise one shotted you then i assume you got full combo'd and considering items > kda in terms of 1v1ing if she has full ap and you have no mr that is completely feasible.

zzz.

WiegrafOfValorApr 11, 201826 votes

I was called unkillable monkey yesterday because the enemy carry needed more than 4 secs to kill me as TK full build, 4 armor items.

item 3047 item 3143 item 3075 item 3742

Kids these days..Back in season 3 fights were never less than 6 seconds, and I want that back.

VerxintApr 11, 201813 votes

Anything that doesn't melt in a few autos is called a tank and then people whine that tanks do too much damage and kill everyone. Then you find out they were talking about Darius

GigglesOApr 11, 20185 votes

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Anything that doesn't melt in a few autos is called a tank and then people whine that tanks do too much damage and kill everyone. Then you find out they were talking about Darius

Or wukong/ shyvanna/irelia with a titanic hydra trinity force, stereks gauge. Yea, lets call all of those damage buffing items tank items while we are at it.

VerxintApr 11, 20184 votes

That too. I'll be Yorick with Trinity, Steraks, and DMP and 1v1 a squishy and they'll say "why do you do so much damage you're a tank" and then argue that Steraks is a tank items just because it gives HP.

GigglesOApr 11, 20183 votes

Don't forget that black cleaver and maw of malmortius are "tank" items too. Both def don't deal primarily more damage.

Honestly the tankiest damage item there is is frozen mallet, but almost noone picks that up.

GigglesOApr 11, 20185 votes

Unkillable monkey, because it took more than 4 seconds? Wow, were you even useful for those 4 seconds or did you just stand there getting cc'd and kite locked out of combat?

My question maybe is did you even get to play for those 4 second?

WiegrafOfValorApr 11, 20183 votes

Mostly nothing, sat there under cc for 2 out of the 4 seconds, gave him a tongue lash before popping my shield and flashing away.

"TENKS OP, PLIS NIRF"

Every adc main on the boards

brôncoApr 11, 201814 votes

I main wukong and can confirm if you live more than .5 seconds you aren't enjoying the real fun interactive gameplay yet

AquariusGineApr 11, 201812 votes

This makes me very sad. I am either completely useless or just steamroll over everyone. There is no game to be played or enjoyed. One side is always stomping too hard

tobequitefrankApr 11, 20182 votes

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This makes me very sad. I am either completely useless or just steamroll over everyone. There is no game to be played or enjoyed. One side is always stomping too hard

lol so many people complain. why cant people just realize that they might be losing based off of skill lol or lack thereof

XxXJoshXxXApr 11, 20185 votes

Because that's not how the system works. If you are on a losing streak you can afk along with your enemy top laner, then both teams fight and your team will get stomped. The system pairs players going down the ladder against players going up the ladder.

remakoroApr 11, 201812 votes

Have to agree. Prolonged teamfights where you might ult twice after much dancing that happened a lot in previous seasons are much more interesting than fucking league of oneshits we have at the moment.

DraehlApr 12, 20184 votes

Amen. I enjoy playing the game. Not fighting for 5 seconds then either marching over enemy bodies or watching them march over mine. Would be great to have a little nuance come back to the game instead of it being a mindless burstfest.

Nausicäa Apr 12, 20185 votes

Riot arent going to reduce damage, its pretty fucking obvious by now if you read the posts they make that they are dead set on this direction. Quick bursty kills is more entertaining at fun to watch in E-Sports so they gonna dumb down their game to fucking abomination.

AnateraApr 12, 20185 votes

I have long suspected Riot doesn't understand what fun is anymore. Why else would they constantly do things that run counter to the idea of intuitive and interesting gameplay?

T4underboltApr 12, 20183 votes

They know what is fun for kids and casuals though. The group that they cather to the most. Every kid or casual would rather pick up a champ that is better than others in everything - stats, survavibility, sustain, simple kit and use no complicated combos but point and click nukes and see people explode with no effort what so ever.

GigglesOApr 12, 20181 votes

But then what uinique game space is this game filling over any other game like fortnite, or any other game?

T4underboltApr 12, 20181 votes

This game stopped to be unique. Thats why fortinite has 3 times the viewers. LCS has the same viewers as regular fortnite streams. Every game has basically elements that make it distinct, unique and rewarding. Dota 2 basically is skill based. Even hots despite having some broken heroes is about using advantage of what your character is good at and how you can play the map. Fortinite is different game type but it is basically FPS with building walls? So it requires certain strategy so noobs cant pick it up just like that and be good by default. In LoL everything is done so noobs and casuals are having a good time doing nothing and still oneshoting and winning games. You have to pick broken champs or you wont win unless you are godlike on non meta champ you play and your bot lane wins.

GigglesOApr 12, 20181 votes

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and your bot lane wins.

Don't forget your other two roles can't just feed it away either, and jungler (might be you) actually needs to countergank.

I don't even understand where casuals and noobs would want to just instantly burst people... it gets old really fast, especially when you aren't the one auto bursting. So you sit trapped for 20 minutes in a game that you already lost because auto burst.

T4underboltApr 13, 20181 votes

Apperantly it doesn't get old because that's what casuals and noobs want and thats what riot is bringing to the game and trying their best to make this game more and more of a snowball fiesta but by playing skillless champions.

GigglesOApr 13, 20182 votes

Yea, well I sadly think that its going to be over the life of their game. Short term gains aren't always good long term plans.

50Shades0fTryndaApr 13, 20181 votes

they probably want to reinvent football

Modl Ryden lApr 11, 20184 votes

Then play the game, be aggressive. Use the damn damage that's so fucking apparently high!

GigglesOApr 11, 20187 votes

Its not that easy when you are either auto win or auto lose. How am I supposed to even play when I'm on the auto lose side of the matchup?

gatchiApr 11, 20187 votes

rolls dice aww right i won this time! but the enemy Yi is fed. hmm better luck next time!

RatpieApr 11, 20185 votes

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Then play the game, be aggressive. Use the damn damage that's so fucking apparently high!

Not all champs are equal to this.

DraehlApr 12, 20182 votes

Not everyone enjoys hurling more and more damage at the problem. Saying the solution to something being broken is playing something else broken is disingenuous, at best.

aqours fanboyApr 11, 20184 votes

Never been forced to play extremely passive unless the matchup I'm against frowns upon being aggro.

I think you just have to work on taking poke, lane positioning, etc.

GigglesOApr 11, 20188 votes

You play highly aggressive champions with lots of mobility and wave clear, ofc you haven't had to play extremely passive...

cheerfothebeerApr 11, 20183 votes

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I'm tired of playing so passively that I make sleeping look active.

I'm tired of just sitting under tower doing nothing all fucking game or stomping so hard that I don't even notice the enemy lane.

That isn't playing the fucking game. That is fucking being afk.

LOWER THE FUCKING DAMAGE. IT IS NOT HEALTHY TO KILL SOMEONE IN 1-2 SECONDS.

I accidentally took grasp the other day. I healed for 66 damage in a 25 minute game... That is right, all fights were under 4 seconds, and I was against a ranged champ so I didn't get to use it in lane.

I started playing the Bard mini game and have actually won a few games. I lane till level 3-5 then collect chimes the rest of the game while roaming. The whole concept that you are describing is just a perspective mindset created by the meta and what you think "playing" is. I encourage everyone to break out of the "meta". Play how you want to play.