aram and really random

Plasma Servant··2 votes·522 views

One of the problems I've heard and believe is a problem is that people have aram accounts. Ones in which they only have champions that are good at aram.

That stinks. So a small change ... when in aram, you get any champion regardless owned or not. No more special accounts for aram.

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Elite4Runner1 votes

While that wouldn't bother me at all, since I already have every champion, that would frustrate most people beyond belief.

Not only are they then much more likely to get a champion that they don't like playing, they are then far more likely to get a champion that they don't even know how to play.

Then they rage, feed, troll, dodge, throw, ...

Sadly, I think it is fine as it is.

The only way I could see this being acceptable is if people had an automatic 3 rerolls every match, and maybe 5 more per day, .. or more.

Plasma Servant1 votes

but then for those of us (including me) that have all champions, we don't get the left-overs because 4 others on the team have good aram champs.

BananaSlayerAMO1 votes

What's wrong with people only buying champs that they think will be strong in that gamemode? I put significant consideration into my purchases and try not to get weaker characters; why is that a problem?

Even if someone only owns the 'best' champs (imo, there are no 'best' champs, games are dependent on skill), there is still a significant chance that they will get a champion from the free rotation. If they don't want to play champs from the rotation, then they need to buy more champs and expand their champion pool.

ARAM is for allowing people to try new champions (i.e. the ones in the free rotation), not forcing them to play such a huge variety of characters that there's no chance to actually develop skill for any of them.

Plasma Servant1 votes

wouldn't mind if it were ONLY the free to play champions. Just want to eliminate that aram only accounts.

BananaSlayerAMO1 votes

But what's wrong with 'aram only' accounts...? I practically only played ARAM for a few hundred games when I started out (after bots, of course), so yeah, I would've done everything on my account specifically for ARAM...

Plasma Servant1 votes

If a player does a purposely aram account, they will only get champions that they believe are good in aram. If they are correct, that increases their probability of getting a "good for aram" champion, which in turn decreases everyone else's chance to get a good for aram champion. It is unsportsmanlike to "game the system" so you have an advantage over others. It is evil.

Plasma Servant1 votes

what you did was not an aram only account, but your only account.

Minarde1 votes

What's wrong with people only buying champs that they think will be strong in that gamemode? I put significant consideration into my purchases and try not to get weaker characters; why is that a problem?

The problem is that it runs counter to League's account progression. In every other game mode, owning more champs is unarguably a good thing. It enables trades, allows for larger personal playable roster, and even provides a way to show how much a player has invested into their account. There is absolutely no downside to owning a champ in League, except in ARAM.

imo, there are no 'best' champs, games are dependent on skill

"Best champs" are hard to define, but "better champs" definitely exist. For instance, look at Bard or Rek'Sai. Both of them have significant parts of their power budget tied up in abilities that aren't particularly useful in ARAM (Bard E, Rek'Sai passive and ult active). On the other hand, Sona is designed to be strongest when she's around her team, and you're almost always with your team in ARAM. Player skill still factors in, but that doesn't mean you're not playing with a handicap.

there is still a significant chance that they will get a champion from the free rotation. If they don't want to play champs from the rotation, then they need to buy more champs and expand their champion pool.

If someone owns the 30 strongest champs, at worst they have roughly a 1/4 chance of getting a champ from the free rotation. Coincidentally, they'll also earn one reroll roughly every four games.

ARAM is for allowing people to try new champions (i.e. the ones in the free rotation), not forcing them to play such a huge variety of characters that there's no chance to actually develop skill for any of them.

That's up for personal interpretation. Some people like having everyone have to adapt to random unexpected champs.

Minarde1 votes

Ideally, Riot adds a new ranked queue for ARAM. Casual players can continue to enjoy the current queue, and more competitive players can have bans, full champ rosters, and whatnot.

This way, no one's gameplay experience is hurt. Furthermore, the new queue should be ranked in order to avoid the issue Dominion had, where the only reward good players got was longer queue times.

Plasma Servant1 votes

just won an aram ... was not much fun. The matchup was just so overwhelming it was just about boring. That is why I really want aram to balance.

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