Honestly, good job balance team!

Akenero·Apr 14, 2016·2 votes·2,893 views

Last night, I played against a talon as karthus mid lane, I got first blood at 2:00, and began to snowball a good amount, he began rushing a hexdrinker, which I didn't notice, and my damage dropped a lot, he could kill me now. I got fed off of turnarounds and rushed a ryalais. The game kept going, and while I did get majorly fed, I still wouldn't have felt hexdrinker and maw to be too oppressively strong, and talon was able to kill most of my team! We still won because 23/10 karthus op though

17 Comments

Mr Broken WingsApr 14, 20165 votes

"i am an immobile mage with 0 health and wonder why a midgame champ like talon ( who generally feeds earlygame) can kill me midgame when he catches me" silver thread

CosnirakApr 14, 20161 votes

"catches me" HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

Mr Broken WingsApr 14, 20163 votes

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"catches me" HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

lets be real here, karthus isnt designed to 1 v 1 a talon, but he has a lot more impact on other lanes, better teamfighting and overall a better damage scaling. Obviously you should get destroyed in a 1 v 1 szenario even with a slight lead. If you are not new to the game you get that.

CosnirakApr 14, 20162 votes

Lets be real here, Talon doesn't "catch" anyone. If you aren't under turret he presses E. Hell if you are under turret and at <70% hp he still presses E. You shouldn't have to camp your turret or leave lane entirely the moment an enemy champion hits lvl 6 or is lvl 3-5 and manages to poke you once or twice with an easy to land ability. Also, even assassins should have counterplay.

Mr Broken WingsApr 14, 20163 votes

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Lets be real here, Talon doesn't "catch" anyone. If you aren't under turret he presses E. Hell if you are under turret and at <70% hp he still presses E. You shouldn't have to camp your turret or leave lane entirely the moment an enemy champion hits lvl 6 or is lvl 3-5 and manages to poke you once or twice with an easy to land ability. Also, even assassins should have counterplay.

The counterplay here is abusing his weak early and avoiding 1 v 1 situations midgame . Just because you dont understand how to handle him doesnt mean he has no counterplay. I mean hell, you picked karthus, one of the weakest champions against mobility burst champions and are complaining. Take exhaust if you cant play save.

CosnirakApr 15, 20162 votes

But he isn't weak early to any mage (except Azir, who isn't really a mage). I didn't pick Karthus, you're assuming I'm the person who was talking about Karthus above, I'm not. Hell I don't even own Karthus. Exhaust does not save you from Talon, particularly once he hits lvl 6.

blackcat1300Apr 20, 20161 votes

Karthus has crap damage scaling and he is a single target damage dealer. Defile dose nothing until late game it is mostly useful for the mana sustain his dps damage is pitfule plus when you run out of mana you have no damage witch is not a problem for talon.

Karthus should deal triple damage to single target champs, pets and jungle mobs make those single target hits feel rewarding. Let Karthus be dominant if he gets a head.

Mr Broken WingsApr 20, 20161 votes

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Karthus has crap damage scaling and he is a single target damage dealer. Defile dose nothing until late game it is mostly useful for the mana sustain his dps damage is pitfule plus when you run out of mana you have no damage witch is not a problem for talon.

Karthus should deal triple damage to single target champs, pets and jungle mobs make those single target hits feel rewarding. Let Karthus be dominant if he gets a head.

^And thats why I dont take this board seriously. ( 99% you are trolling though but your elo lets me think AT LEAST A BIT that you are not trolling)

blackcat1300Apr 21, 20161 votes

Yah this like elo acouts for shit I have played well over a thousand games and only do solo Q in ranked I exsept when some invited me to ranked with out telling me an lost me 5 games in a row I then won 5 game in a a row this another person. They almost leveled in to siver but then the afk bad jungler left us two losses and he got stuck in bronze.

I don't use skipe and what dose a top main Know about Karthus.

All you do is play burst mages mid and Riven top what do you Know about Karthus how any Q's dose it take on average to kill a champ at level 6.

How many Q's can you cast after you die and still use requiem. How can you effectively Farm mantain mana and still trade damage with your opponent.

How long dose it take to kill a champ with Q's. How much gold will the other team get if you die.

Oh wait you play high mobility champs. Your gold so obviously you can tell me how easy it is to beat teemo with riven top and you will tell me how balanced the game items are. Especially When Ekko can go tank and still deal more damage then Karthus going for ap. Karthus doesn't.

So tell me how your elo makes you better at Karthus and makes you Know more about Karthus tell me what you Know about his play stile or will you just say ult free kills and deal a lot of dps damage like all the bronze players say.

Mr Broken WingsApr 21, 20162 votes

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Yah this like elo acouts for shit I have played well over a thousand games and only do solo Q in ranked I exsept when some invited me to ranked with out telling me an lost me 5 games in a row I then won 5 game in a a row this another person. They almost leveled in to siver but then the afk bad jungler left us two losses and he got stuck in bronze.

I don't use skipe and what dose a top main Know about Karthus.

All you do is play burst mages mid and Riven top what do you Know about Karthus how any Q's dose it take on average to kill a champ at level 6.

How many Q's can you cast after you die and still use requiem. How can you effectively Farm mantain mana and still trade damage with your opponent.

How long dose it take to kill a champ with Q's. How much gold will the other team get if you die.

Oh wait you play high mobility champs. Your gold so obviously you can tell me how easy it is to beat teemo with riven top and you will tell me how balanced the game items are. Especially When Ekko can go tank and still deal more damage then Karthus going for ap. Karthus doesn't.

So tell me how your elo makes you better at Karthus and makes you Know more about Karthus tell me what you Know about his play stile or will you just say ult free kills and deal a lot of dps damage like all the bronze players say.

I never said the game was balanced, but trippling karthus damage even though he has one of the higher damagoutputs in teamfights is just a ridicilous and stupid idea. And please, stop embarrassing yourself.

blackcat1300Apr 21, 20161 votes

Thanks you proved my point you know nothing about playing Karthus and can't even answer a simple queston plus his Q already dose double damage do you know how much that is oh wait you don't because you play mostly adc champs top lane and don't play mid or even Karthus you you wouldn't know how mutch damage tripling a single target Q would even do.

You don't even know how much damage a single q dose and what items are needed to deal damage with a q.

You as a proud elo player with no real knowledge of this champ or his play stile is calling my idea ridiculous I will have you know I suggested the change for soraka heal to use her own health a month be for it hit pbe and I also predicted that dfg spell vamp was going to get removed and rage blade was going to be supper strong

Yah how embarrassing it is that I have such a good understanding of a game that a high elo player doesn't.

SO again how mutch damage would a triple damage Q do with 80 ap it really simple. Ho and do you think you as a gold player couldn't doge it.

What is the dps of his Q at level 10 to the aa of Riven that is an easy one. Kathus only has one itam by ten that gives ap item 3027 or item 3116

So level 10 Riven dps and don't forget that 25% extra damage from your passive vs Karthus dps so me your elo knowledge. Plus Riven can still do crit damage so again his dps damage comparison.

Mr Broken WingsApr 21, 20162 votes

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Thanks you proved my point you know nothing about playing Karthus and can't even answer a simple queston plus his Q already dose double damage do you know how much that is oh wait you don't because you play mostly adc champs top lane and don't play mid or even Karthus you you wouldn't know how mutch damage tripling a single target Q would even do.

You don't even know how much damage a single q dose and what items are needed to deal damage with a q.

You as a proud elo player with no real knowledge of this champ or his play stile is calling my idea ridiculous I will have you know I suggested the change for soraka heal to use her own health a month be for it hit pbe and I also predicted that dfg spell vamp was going to get removed and rage blade was going to be supper strong

Yah how embarrassing it is that I have such a good understanding of a game that a high elo player doesn't.

SO again how mutch damage would a triple damage Q do with 80 ap it really simple. Ho and do you think you as a gold player couldn't doge it.

What is the dps of his Q at level 10 to the aa of Riven that is an easy one. Kathus only has one itam by ten that gives ap or

So level 10 Riven dps vs Karthus dps so me your elo knowledge.

You are way too fokused on getting a hard on for my elo dude, I still know more about this champion because I clearly understand the game better then you, stop being so salty. There is a reason why you need to be diamond 5 to be in the balance team of riot, I mean seriously. I wont bother reading your wrong paragraphs so just chill out, if you practise a lot and get better at the game you will agree with me that your argument right now is bullshit. If you want some tipps for your karthus then ask NICELY and dont be a douche.

RiotRiot SotereApr 14, 20163 votes

We'll take the compliment!..., I think.

AkeneroApr 14, 20161 votes

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We'll take the compliment!..., I think.

It's meant as one :)

Lazypeon100Apr 14, 20161 votes

That is one confusing rant to be honest.

AsydeApr 14, 20162 votes

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That is one confusing rant to be honest.

Eh I understood it even though its a bit weird. He's saying, "Thank you, it's still strong (noticeable talon damage increase) but not completely oppressive anymore (talon still able to be killed)"