Maw nerfs on the PBE

Durfain··115 votes·4,921 views

Mage mains rejoice

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Mael bro17 votes

Mage mains in their typical fashion will find other things to whine about. It's natural.

Astôlfo31 votes

Just like everyone else will always complain about everything. ;)

KrugLyfe3 votes

It's mostly the mage lovers you people love screaming bias when your class isn't the best in the game

Auryiel8 votes

Meanwhile people still complaining about FoN and Runic Bulwark being removed

B1naryB0t1 votes

no ragrets

Mael bro3 votes

This is pathetic

Nunya Bezwacks1 votes

runic bulwark was removed for retarded reasons

Deadly Mittens1 votes

Hey I miss being able to get armor and damage, and miss Atma's removal for its niche.

macromite12 votes

just like how adc's complain about how they never have enough damage when they have loads?

or how assassins complain that they aren't safe enough when they shouldn't be safe at all?

or how tanks complain because they can get popped like balloons by every other class?

or how supports complain about adc's never being intelligent?

you know, I never see bruisers complain, probably because they break every item.

Mhihnj7 votes

you know, I never see bruisers complain, probably because they break every item

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OverpoweredSoap2 votes

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you know, I never see bruisers and **Ezreal ** complain, probably because they break every item.

Added a little something for you.

3221slyfoxhomie3 votes

get out of here and never come back please

all you have to do is play a long range mage and hes dead KogMaw item 3070

Evewynn17 votes

Long range mages often have the inherent weakness of getting gap-closed.

AD assassins like Zed could rush maw and be a mage's worst nightmare, and even with adcs it proves to be an extremely powerful item due to the passive shield and great stats.

YCitizenSnipsY11 votes

Zed is supposed to be a most mages worse nightmare, as is any Assassin. For some reason people believe assassins are supposed to only kill Adc's. If it weren't for assassins what other class could ever even close the gap to pose a threat to mages.

MysticDreams126 votes

Zed isn't supposed to be a nightmare to mages bud. Most mages should be able to be his nightmare, but with his stupid kit plus Duskblade and Maw, he's too stupid broken.

YCitizenSnipsY8 votes

Sorry mages are too safe from every other class in the game. Any bruiser or Juggernaut will get kited to death. ADC's get out ranged, and tanks and supports can only hope to find a way to engagne on one in the back line and hope for follow up. Assassins are literally the only class that pose a real threat to mages.

MysticDreams124 votes

In my opinion mages should be the threats to assassins.

Axis the Dragon19 votes

Tanks should be the threats to assassins. Their job is to dive in to kill squishies*, whereas a Tank's job is to peel and CC lock these mobile targets down long enough for their carries to kill them.

*yes, that includes mages as well - and this is coming from a mostly immobile mage player

Ratbert6 votes

Soooo how can mages kill an assassin that's locked down if they have maw?

Everelda3 votes

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Soooo how can mages kill an assassin that's locked down if they have maw?

well assuming your not forced to build zhonya's as your first item and spend the first half of the match gimped due to this (cough zed cough) magic pen is what you build against maw

Axis the Dragon10 votes

Therein lies the value of the maw/sterak's nerfs. They're too good ATM compared to mages' rush item against ad assassins (Zhonyas) - and that's not even because hourglass is bad (if a tad overpriced) but because maw is so stupidly good lol

Bhagswag6 votes

Can someone explain why the price of hourglass randomly changed from 500 something to 1050 today? What happened? I really don't know.

Axis the Dragon3 votes

It wasn't just today iirc it was a couple if patches ago when riot decided that ap itemisation was too good and increased the base prices of a bunch of ap items

Hellioning4 votes

Riot felt that the active on Zhonya's was so good, it was a steal at 500 gold.

Handin Out Naps11 votes

Duskblade is pretty average. And no mages arent supposed to 1v1 Assassins. Sorry you think your champs should be gods in 1v1s and teamfights cant have it all bud.

MysticDreams126 votes

To me, yes they are. And duskblade has in my opinion made Zed even more of a broken champ than he already is. Unless you've seen a Zed with Duskblade, Maw, Bloodthirster, Merc Treads, Sterak's and Merc's Simitar take out over half of a full tank Nasus's health like I have, don't call duskblade "average".

Handin Out Naps8 votes

Sounds like a terrible build, doubtful that's how you saw it happen. If a Zed and Nasus are both 6 Items Zed wont even touch Nasus especially not with a build that terrible. You expect to even scratch a Nasus without a last whisper? Nasus literally face tanks all your damage and Q's you to death. That build lacks Youmuus, and Last whisper and trades it out for life steal (which is terrible), Duskblade also procs right off the first auto so unless Nasus was very low from the beginning you aren't going to be doing any damage. I understand that you hate Zed just like the average player that visits the boards would, but please try to not make up these ridiculous scenarios in your head and attempt to use them as proof for why Duskblade is broken on Zed. Duskblade is just an average item, Pros dont even waste their time building it.

MysticDreams127 votes

Dude. I fucking saw it with my own eyes. I was in the game. Zed jumped on Nasus, both of them full health. So don't try to make me out as a liar.

I have seen every Zed build Duskblade and it drastically helps his stupid power. I've seen Lee's and Riven's build it for pete's sake.

Astôlfo1 votes

And... first of all you're level 20. People aren't even good at that level really. Why do I know? Because I recently was at that level too, and I wasn't that good either. It's not someone's good, it's that others are bad, most of the time. I'm level 30 now and I'm still not that good.

And after looking through your match history, you conveniently left out any mention of games when an enemy Zed did awful/neutral/etc. And after looking through for a while, I can't even find a single game log where an enemy Zed did well. And no, you are not telling the complete truth.

Zed does not just delete tanks without significant reason at which point you have nothing to complain about.

MysticDreams125 votes

Dude. It was on my main account, you rude person. Not on this one. I'm a smurf.

I am telling the truth, and if you read correctly, I said he took over half of Nasus's health. He didn't kill him.

Mainly in my games, I ban the atrocity named Zed, so that's why he's not in them.

I'm a good player, just going through a rough patch. So don't be mean and say I'm "bad" and call me out on my level. That's rude and mean.

Astôlfo1 votes

Mind showing the game so there's some sort of context besides just what you say? ;)

MysticDreams122 votes

Yea well I went on op.gg to look for it, and they only showed game up to a month before. Apparently that game I played was longer than that.

I am not lying about this. I would never do that.

Astôlfo1 votes

Never said you're lying. I said context is missing (what happened before said Zed did that to Nasus).

Astôlfo1 votes

He got fed then, at that point. Any champ does well if they get that fed that early. And if his Q was enough to kill you, no, it was not a oneshot unless you're extremely squishy. He'd have done damage besides just the Q first.

Requiemsfire7 votes

Actually when I was adjusting to Zed and practicing him I incidentally deleted a fed bruiser lee sin in a single combo using duskblade of draktharr and blade of the ruined King. It's entirely possible for zed to obliterate a tank if he has built enough damage into his kit and all in'd with his entire kit.

If the tank is ahead though or has lots of armour built, Zed wouldn't be able to do it.

MysticDreams122 votes

Exactly.

KING 5HARK1 votes

Duskblade does around 8% missing hp to a tank that has built armor. How the fuck is that even relevant?

420 Stylish1 votes

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Dude. I fucking saw it with my own eyes. I was in the game. Zed jumped on Nasus, both of them full health. So don't try to make me out as a liar.

I have seen every Zed build Duskblade and it drastically helps his stupid power. I've seen Lee's and Riven's build it for pete's sake.

You're definitely over exaggerating Duskblade's power, it's not that good on Zed. The passive doesn't hit too hard, it has a 2min CD, and the base stats it gives are perfectly fine. Not trying too hard to defend either Zed or Duskblade, just state that it's not a core item on Zed.

P.S: Coming from a Zed main, who also supports Zed getting nerfed (he's too strong) and supports the Maw nerfs (it's too strong).

MysticDreams121 votes

I know, I'm just saying that if Duskblade was never even made, Zed wouldn't be able to delete that much health on a Nasus.

KING 5HARK1 votes

It does jack shit to tanks that build armor(maybe around 8 % missing hp which is nothing)

Trídent11 votes

And no mages arent supposed to 1v1 Assassins

They should have even 1v1 potential, depending on the mage and the assassin.

Some mages such as Veigar, Annie and Syndra should be able to 1v1 an assassin, but mages like Xerath, Cassiopeia Ziggs and Lux should have more trouble, although I believe Lux can still 1v1 Assassins nearly as easy as Veigar, Annie and Syndra

Handin Out Naps2 votes

I agree to an extent. The whole purpose of assassin's is to kill people who are on their own or to punish mistakes in a sense. But yeah I do agree some mage are able to 1v1 assassin's fairly well, I just don't believe mages as a class are meant to be 1v1ing assassins.

Voluug136 votes

Except mages is too much of a widespread class to be ''only one class''.

You have siege mages, frontline mages, utility mages, sustained damage mages.

Frontline mages are basically assassin counters most of the time. Or should.

Voluug138 votes

Hi, my name is Malzahar .

Truth is mages as a whole are a very diverse lot. Yeah, Karthus shouldn't have 1v1 potential, but to say ''NO MAGE CAN OUTDUEL AN ASSASSIN'' when several already exist... well, that is silly.

Hellioning2 votes

I wouldn't have a problem with mages being unable to 1v1 assassins if I wasn't constantly in a 1v1 situation with assassins in lane.

Handin Out Naps1 votes

Then pick someone who can. You see a Zed, pick Malz, Cho, Urgot, Kayle. Expand your pool of Champions and learn some that completely shit on the champion you have trouble with. You can expect to beat every champion with just a select few.

Hellioning1 votes

Now if only Blind Pick wasn't a part of this game.

Spacesuit Spiff1 votes

Zed isnt supposed to... despite his whole kit and build??

Astôlfo3 votes

Forgive Mystic, he has no idea what he's talking about :P

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