The tank update left pure tank items so bad that people are buying support tank items instead

Durfain·7/4/2017, 2:38:10 PM·143 votes·6,439 views

item 3742 is 80.46% gold efficient at a cost of 2900 gold giving its movement speed passive a value of around 566 gold. item 3068 is 80.46% gold efficient at a cost of 2900 gold giving its terrible wave clear passive a value of around 566 gold. item 3109 is 110.14% gold efficient at a cost of 2300 gold (with its armor passive active) making its passive completely free when around another ally.

With pure tank items so terrible it's not really any reason that tanks are buying item 3109 over them.

149 Comments

Weathered7/4/2017, 3:54:27 PM30 votes

There are small changes on the PBE right now, like a rework to Thornmail. But I agree, support-tank hybrid items have leaked into classes they shouldn't because of their efficiency and the bad state of regular tank items. There needs to be more of a definitive line between the two with each having at least basic favorability.

kasfas7/4/2017, 4:48:36 PM21 votes

Funny how we've known and complained about top tank items being terrible for a month, at least **I ** have, and said they require buffs and yet nothing has effectively been done about it. It would appear that riot has an affinity for not having tanks be viable, at least that's what their actions say anyway.

Rocnation987/4/2017, 6:55:12 PM13 votes

item 3193 + item 3190

Karfuss7/5/2017, 3:31:35 AM9 votes

Another 'you know you screwed up when...' moment.

I honestly cannot recall the last great balancing move Riot has done since Season 5, without doubt the golden age of League balance. Every tweak has continually eroded everything someone, somewhere put a lot of time and care into.

At this point, I wouldn't mind if Riot scaled back to a much older patch and began from scratch.

The fact that a defensively built ADC build has a higher theoretical DPS than fully offensive builds, with added survivability, is the most masochistic thing I've ever seen Riot do. I cannot and will never understand how, and why, that ever got past testing. It's mindbogglingly twisted, sick and insane.

I've said it once and I'll say it again. Riot's internal testing is not fit for purpose. Patches with drastic changes cannot be deemed fit for live servers after two weeks on the PBE either.

NoobLearninGame7/4/2017, 5:51:46 PM8 votes

Wasn't it tank meta for quite a while and people were complaining about that?

AirKingNeo7/4/2017, 7:49:42 PM6 votes

I feel like Sunfire and Deadman's could use +25 HP and -100 cost to make them a lot better.

zxinferxz7/4/2017, 6:10:40 PM4 votes

I stopped buying bami altogether on Mundo. If I'm jungling, I always rush titanic instead, and if I'm top and I'm ahead I also aim for it there, otherwise I just don't even bother getting any sort of "push" item and either rush DMP or KV; because by just having 1 point on Burning Agony is enough to shove the lane, as hilarious as that sounds. Also, solari is a perfectly fine and balanced item! I'm extremely sure it was meant for Mundo players to pick it up and give their teammates a 1k shield! Nowadays I often don't grab a visage unless the enemy team has 2 good magic damage sources, if they only have one magic damage source and it's not magic DPS, then I just grab the solari as my only resistance item, and go full armor, because solari is just that damn good. All the bami-upgrades are trash items, and if you're still buying them, you don't deserve the LP you're getting, nowadays I don't even upgrade my jungler item, I just keep the color-smite and leave it there, no Cinderhulk, no Bloodrazor, no Warrior (I can't really use the last two, and the first one is trash)

Sun Wu Ryuumoku7/4/2017, 5:16:51 PM3 votes

This itemitem 3742 isn't mean for tank to begin.. item 3109 no top build this first instead item 3068