Bitch about how shitty your jungler is, cry about your jungler being shit, anything along those lines, and then beg for ganks and still talk shit about your jungler.
You're literally bitching at someone then expecting them to help you. Yeah, no. As a jungler main, i'm just going to purposely let you lose lane.
Good point. Also from the laner's perspective: If the enemy jungler ganked our lane several times, and you ganked zero times, you don't get to flame us for feeding and you also shouldn't expect any backup from that lane you allowed your opponent to snowball.
It goes both ways, you can have shitty laners, and you can have shitty junglers. Like if I'm low on mana and staying under tower AND I ping my mana and you go to gank my laner even though I ping danger and then you die because you go too ham, don't spam question mark ping me.
At the same time if you're a Jungler don't freak out when someone asks you to gank their lane.
That. And especially those top laners who dont guard your buff before the minions spawn (I mean they dont even have to ward, just check it before minions come to lane in case they lvl 1 steal it) I gotta say I mostly dont mind it anyways when they dont because I actually play to win and wont b!tch about something just because they did bad but It kinda hurts when you go check your buff and theres nothing in there I usually only start ignoring them if they are really b!tchy and start flaming non stop (even better after a 1v1)
You shouldn't have to baby sit anyways << Old mid main >> on should be able to hold lane with out constant jg presence.
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Ok but you need to understand. I have died once due to my shitty warding. I am now forced under tower and thats fine, I'm paying for my mistakes. But after getting ranked and being tower dived for the third time by the enemy toplaner + jungler resulting in my juicy 0/4/0, Im gonna need a countergank.
I think another big difference between a good jg and a bad jg is that a good jg knows where the other jg is or where hes gonna be. Like its not that hard to know what lanes are easy ganks for their team. So its easier to be close to defend. Sometimes counter ganks are better than a normal gank.
So even though you cant always know where the enemy jg is with wards (they help tho) you can know what moves the enemy jg wants to make. Like lanes to gank or objectives to take (scuttle crabs, drags, herald, towers, barons, buffs, whatever). It also depends on what champ they are playing. Like against kindred you wanna prevent counter jg and really focus on taking scuttles away early. Or against a lee sin, he should be pressuring lanes early. Countering his ganks puts a dent in his early game. Or Warwick or shyvana take early drags pretty quickly. Ward the drag pit and herald.
Its not that hard. It just takes some practice. Imaqtpie says its the easiest role and theres a bit of truth to it if you take the time to learn how to jungle like a pro.
