I already play current LB as support pretty often - even with one item she can burst the adc or support in one combo and can quickly snowball into a monster. Even otherwise her double chain can CC a target for a long time.
With the new rework she has a lot more options in lane, and her E applying sigil by itself really makes me intrigued. She also provides global vision with her RR. She can also totally zone an adc by just marking them with sigil.
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Hahahahyena2 votesit's a little far fetched but i can see it happening
I hate my ADC1 votes
dakota saturn2 votes[{quoted}](name=I hate my ADC,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oR9odRKd,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-11-02T03:53:23.016+0000)
- Leblanc needs gold.
- A support doesn't have gold.
- "Snowballing" isn't a viable strategy.
I can tell as a traditional support main that it doesn't make sense to you. It's a different playstyle from Janna/Nami.
It's not much different from Brand/Annie/Vel'Koz support - she has about 3.5 ap scalings, so it really doesn't take a lot for her to burst the adc.
Romtheguy1 votesLet's not forget LeBlanc's base damages either. Just enough to scare away or outright kill.
I hate my ADC1 votesIt is far different from Brand/Annie/Vel'Koz support.
Brand and Vel'Koz have passive that give them a lot of free % health damage without the need for levels or items. Zyra, another mage support, just have super high base damage due to her plants. Annie has higher attack range than the majority of ADCs and supports, this is the main reason why she is actually viable as a support, because she has high base harass in early game due to her auto attacks setting her danger zone higher than the enemy, reducing her dependence to level and items in the early game. Losing your lane as an Annie support is pretty much making you completely worthless for the rest of the game however.
Leblanc doesn't have either of those. She scales on levels and items. A support is almost always going to be the lowest level on their team and without the base damage from Leblanc spells and no items for her scaling, her damage will absolutely not be dangerous against any competent bot lane.
I've played my share of mage support in normals, I don't play them in ranked because I'd rather stick with a style I am more familiar with and when I need AP damage, I go for Sona instead. I've fought all sort of support, even saw someone try to play Vayne support. I'm not talking out of my ass when I'm saying Leblanc wouldn't be a good support. You can support with any champion and win, doesn't make them good at support, just means you won your game. There are a thousand reasons why you would win a game.
I've got Mastery 7 on Taliyah from playing Support Taliyah in normals. Doesn't mean I consider Taliyah to be good as a Support. Taliyah is too dependent on getting an early Rylai and suffer from her scaling if she goes support.
And regarding the whole "Burst the ADC". It does take a lot to burst an ADC in bot lane when you aren't snowballing. The ADC has Summoner Heal and the enemy support is usually carrying around Exhaust or has defensive abilities like shields, heals or other ways to prevent damage done to its ADC. It is actually MUCH harder to kill an opponent in a two-man lane than in a one-man lane. Because in a two man lane, you always have to put yourself in danger when trying to engage. And let's just say that... a Leblanc isn't exactly the hardest thing to kill. If you dash in to attack, you may find yourself pinned to a wall by a Vayne, stunned by a Leona or simply bursted down by a Caliber net and a Power Chord Q.
Truly Prideful1 votesI think you'd still get better results out of a Brand / Vel'koz / Annie pick. You lose LeBlanc's dash, but gain great AoE from each and reliable CC on two of them. Bursting the ADC out as support LeBlanc shouldn't really happen unless they're really behind or you've snowballed.
Not saying don't bother trying it, I welcome seeing anything new in this game. Just my opinions on it.
dakota saturn1 votesI think you'd still get better results out of a Brand / Vel'koz / Annie pick. You lose LeBlanc's dash, but gain great AoE from each and reliable CC on two of them. Bursting the ADC out as support LeBlanc shouldn't really happen unless they're really behind or you've snowballed.
Not saying don't bother trying it, I welcome seeing anything new in this game. Just my opinions on it.
It's also more of a playstyle - Those 3 champs are immobile as can be, and if caught in a bad spot, they're dead 100%. LB can make plays with her mobility and bait ppl into chasing her (happens all the time even in plat).
Bursting the adc before 6 isn't 100-0, it's qw - adc is now 60%. w -> qe ignite w/ your adc follow up = dead. With even a small lead, after lv 6, a qrwe combo will certainly 100-0 the enemy adc. LB chain is a lot easier to land than a thresh/blitz grab or almost every other skillshot. You can W right on top of them, chain, and blink back out of auto range but still in tether range.
I've had pretty good success with it.
Erockandroll1 votesI think you'd still get better results out of a Brand / Vel'koz / Annie pick. You lose LeBlanc's dash, but gain great AoE from each and reliable CC on two of them. Bursting the ADC out as support LeBlanc shouldn't really happen unless they're really behind or you've snowballed.
Not saying don't bother trying it, I welcome seeing anything new in this game. Just my opinions on it.
over all, most mage supports have a lot more CC than Le'blanc. Annie has a stun every 4th spell, Brand has a stun with his passive-Q combo, Vel'koz, has a slow and a knock up, While Le blanc really only has the snare, on a kinda unreliable tether.
Because of that, those mage supports tend to grab CDR, (increase damage and CC) and Support itemization is flushed with CDR options. But the other problem I would see with Le'blanc is mana problems.
The thing with the support role is, High damage output is never a reliable options, so if you planed on picking a damage oriented Support, it should be paired with some utility. Cause even if you fail to snowball, the utility is always helpful.
Craft Zeppelin1 votesyou dont need to support since you can spawn your ult randomly on bot and spiritually be there somehow lol
EcchiOtakuTM1 votesTalon support>>>>>>LB support.
reaperteaser1 votesnew talon as sup means best wards ever!
EcchiOtakuTM1 votesActually been building equinox not really an issue :P 6th slot always situational anyways.