Don't make the new IE give 50% crit chance without at least a Yasuo gameplay update

ankoanko19·12/24/2018, 12:46:19 AM·67 votes·17,585 views

Yeah no, I would NOT want to play a game where Yas has only an IE and 100% crit chance. It's already frustrating when you beat him and he has PD + IE and then starts to outduel you but at least it takes a long time for him to get there if he's behind. If you wanna make IE's rework go live, you gotta change Yasuo's passive aswell.

Edit: Guys, you wont lose AS. Just buy berserkers + the new IE.

69 Comments

FrozenFrostFyre12/24/2018, 12:48:22 AM43 votes

Yas passive should have been changed years ago though, has gets a shield(strong all by itself see vi) and a double crit one of the stronger passives in the game.

Hotarµ12/24/2018, 12:54:54 AM29 votes

Even if the item did go live, Yasuo would be missing out on the damage reduction and attack speed from Phantom Dancer. Yasuo requires about 110% bonus attack speed to reach max CDR on his Q, he'd only get 65% if he spent 6,100 gold on Berserker's and new IE.

If the changes to PD went through, I could see IE being a more desirable first item but it's not going to be as broken as it sounds. By the time he earns 5,000 gold an enemy laner could have a full item, boots, and a component of another item. He'd also be losing out on the damage reduction from PD, making him squishier and riskier overall.

Overall Yasuo will end up having more wasted stats from the item and it's large cost would delay his powerspike even more. 5,000 gold is a lot, after all, especially for a first item with some expensive components.

tl;dr It sounds a little broken gaining 100% crit from one item, but it probably won't be that good compared to his current build. Give it time and allow it to be tested on the PBE.

ModCaptainMårvelous12/24/2018, 2:37:51 AM16 votes

That'd actually make Yas worse.

His first item is usually item 3046 (according to op.gg) because it gives not only high crit but also damage reduction and Q-CD reduction. With Yas hitting 100% Crit with Infinity Edge, he'd be losing a LOT of AS from crit items and from PD. Which overall will hurt him in the long run.

Pika Fox12/24/2018, 7:37:01 AM9 votes

Its 5k gold. 5k. Thats old IE + Zeal. Hed get near 100% crit from that anyway, its honestly not a real issue.

Currently he pays 2.7k for 60% crit. 5k for 100% is reasonable.

MankeyMadness12/24/2018, 1:04:14 AM8 votes

Should've been removed when IE gave everyone a Yasuo passive. Why tf should he double dip?

xPhantomDancerX12/24/2018, 10:39:09 AM8 votes

It's 5k gold without the attack speed, movement speed, or damage reduction from PD. It's like buying a IE and PD but you only get the crit from PD, nothing else. So as far as I'm concerned it's a nerf to yas.

Poske12/24/2018, 3:23:20 PM5 votes

Yes let me just spend 5k gold on an item as A **MELEE ** FKING CARRY

If you think Yasuo likes EXPENSIVE itemization you are wrong

IPromiseTomorrow12/24/2018, 4:50:19 PM4 votes

Yasuo can have a more varied Build thanks to 1 Item giving him all the crit he needs

His options are

item 3153 item 3080 item 3033 item 3813 item 3078 item 3026 item 3053 item 3143 item 3075 item 3748 item 3071 item 3022 item 3163 item 3230 item 3231 item 3068

So his potential builds could look like

Crit DamageLifesteal/Tanky item 3031 item 3078 item 3080 item 3053 item 3026 item 3006

Yasuo

Or

Crit Hella Tanky You could Take Conquerer with this build too. And Resolve 2nd item 3031 item 3065 item 3022 item 3143 item 3071 item 3006 oritem 3111

Or

Crit Ap Yasuo item 3031 item 3115 item 3157 item 3102 item 3146 item 3089 item 3165 you can choose whatever boots and get a good 5 item combo.

Or

No. I don't like New Builds

item 3031 item 3087 item 3080 item 3139 item 3026 item 3006

I like this change. This Makes a Beast but only if he can get the gold. Once he gets IE the other items won't be as hard to get. if these IE changes do go through. I see becoming a MORE feast or famine Champ but once he crosses his IE powerpike, which takes a Mountainclimb to get to. Yasuo will have more options and newer builds will help his survivability,which is weak vs poke and kite.

I am glad to hear these Survivability Changes could happen. High ELO and Low ELO he'll definitely feel more powerful Later in game but harder to reach his full power.

I'm not sure how he'll feel on LOW and HIGH ELO. But personally my opinion. I like these changes.

And atk Spd Rune is getting a 1%buff so that'll help his early a bit lol.

PAiN KiLLERzz712/24/2018, 6:25:49 PM3 votes

"guys,you won't lose AS. just buy berserkers + the new IE"

Yasuo ALREADY buys berserkers,so no we actually lose attack speed from this.

xXSpearmint69Xx12/24/2018, 12:02:56 PM3 votes

I permaban him anyways so whatever. You save yourself so much frustration, you should do it too.

Packun Flower12/24/2018, 7:03:25 PM3 votes

Yas should have lost his double crit passive a long time ago, if they didn't remove it then they aren't going to remove it now,

The thigh guy12/24/2018, 6:41:47 PM3 votes

I don’t see any problem with yasuo getting another free 2000 gold worth of stats after getting 5000+ gold. Totally balanced.

Arammus12/24/2018, 9:57:55 PM2 votes

right now the total cost is 3400 for ie and 2700 for phantom dancer. makes 6100 gold.

"new" ie is shown as a 5000 cost item. basically yas would be a massive buff not only cause his "full itembuild" (ONE DAMN ITEM) costs 1100 less, he would also have 1 more itemslot.

ArvDaBeast12/24/2018, 11:30:55 PM2 votes

the other ie also gives him 40% crit, at a price of 3400, meaning that he can get an ie and item 1051 and get 100% crit with less than 4k gold...