Speaking of toxic champions...

bvcderrttyyhjjjk·Jun 12, 2015·1 votes·1,112 views

Annie.

Waits late game. Chooses someone in the enemy team, flash-deletes him before the fight even begins. Play vs. Annie, you are playing a 4v5. Point and click champion that one shots AoE while also stunning everyone. I dare you to tell me she does not need a huge nerf/ complete rework.

And I don't want to read some ridicuolus excuses from Annie mains enjoying their free elo with a zero-skill-required champion. It is like having the old Vaigar, but with AoE. I don't care that she has low range. She flashes, presse R, and you lose the game. So yeah.

I hate LeBlanc one shotting people, and Zed as well, but AT LEAST they require skill. I honestly can't play them well, so while they are too strong I can't really talk too much trash to the people playing them. But Annie. One click, one won teamfight.

20 Comments

UnfathomableWinJun 12, 20152 votes

The instant cast on Tibbers is definitely a little overwhelming. Riot says they balance champs to have weakness, and considering all her skills are instant, one locks on, two AOE's, a built in Sunfire for her and Tibs, she could deal to take a little time to morph that bear into a giant CC pentakill waiting to happen. I'm just saying, give her a 2 second cast time so people can actually dodge the flash-R death.

UnfathomableWinJun 12, 20151 votes

By the way do you remember DFG Annie? They literally removed DFG because it was the problem with Annie, but turns out Tibbers is and now a good item for countering her is gone.

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 12, 20151 votes

DFG was not removed because of annie. There are tons of champions that dfg was insanely more op on. Ahri Fizz Leblanc Malzahar Mordekaiser Velkoz and everyones favorite, AP Garen

UnfathomableWinJun 12, 20151 votes

I didn't actually know that. I remember when I picked up playing again in S4 I never saw any of those champs except maybe Fizz, Ahri, and Malz use DFG as a regular build choice, but even then it was usually passed over for a CDR type item like Morello, or in Fizz's case the Gunblade. Yet Annie? That was the first thing EVERYONE built with Annie. "step 1: Annie. Step 2: dfg. Step 3: enemy 'Effyoulilgirl, waitwtf!?!?!?' Step 4: profit"

MacDthreeJun 12, 20151 votes

Syndra yes hello I'm dead now. lol

ErockandrollJun 12, 20152 votes

#ShortRange #Immobility #HasWeaknesses

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 12, 20151 votes

this ^

bvcderrttyyhjjjkJun 12, 20151 votes

SheDoesntCare OneShotPentaKill SheCan1v3NoProblem

JustMyBassCannonJun 12, 20151 votes

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OneShotPentaKill

She can't one-rotation pentakill unless the enemy team is severely underleveled.

bvcderrttyyhjjjkJun 12, 20151 votes

But she usually have 4 people who will clean up low people stunned for half an hour.

JustMyBassCannonJun 12, 20151 votes

Exaggerate and whine more, it makes you look like part of the League community.

Byakuya KuchikiJun 12, 20152 votes

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#ShortRange

i lol'd

#Immobility

not relevant when if you are in range to hit her shes in range to hit you and she will instaburst you faster

#HasWeaknesses

like what

Epilogue of LifeJun 12, 20152 votes

And they say Talon was OP. Lol. So they removed my silence, can we remove Annie's stun too, since it has even less counterplay?

Byakuya KuchikiJun 12, 20152 votes

q and w have 625 range ult has 600 so she outranges all ADCs besides caitlyn and tristana level 16+ she also outranges most engages (maokai w, ryze w, flash poppy e, and its even with taric stun,

TrídentJun 12, 20151 votes

I don't play Annie, but have you ever tried a item 3140 ?

Riot admits Annie is strong, but says they want to keep her identity as that mage with the insta stun,.... RIP Veigar

UnfathomableWinJun 12, 20151 votes

Exactly, Veigar had an instant stun once, then they gave him a cast time, same thing should happen to Tibbers. A small cast time maybe of an animation where she puts a fireball around the teddybear and then it transforms, like how Veig's stun comes up from the ground w/ what a 1.5 second cast time. And item 3140 works but if she's fed late game all it takes is her to drop the ult and hit the AOE fire and you're... Toast. ;D

TrídentJun 12, 20151 votes

In the cinematic, Annie threw Tibbers in teddy bear form, and then he appeared. I think that's what they should change, maybe a .4 second delay so people have time to summoner 4 or item 3157

But she's not that bad, she still has counterplay

UnfathomableWinJun 12, 20151 votes

True there's counter play (Used to main Syndra, and throwing tibbers is so fun), but it's hard for the dynamic of team-fights when Annie's been farming insanely as mid (or relic shield Annie supp?! Still confused why that's a thing.) and just comes in to 1v5 your team at drag or baron because her flash R has no warning or chances to dodge. You literally have an instant to flash out, or jump away while she's flashing, and even then her range nulls the effort of having flashed, but a cast timer and that flash just saved all 5 team members from instant death/stun.

bvcderrttyyhjjjkJun 12, 20151 votes

Yeah Sash works for the CC, but what about the damage? If she's aiming directly at you you instantly die, the CC is not even the main issue. Massive CC+Massive damage+point and click= not healthy champ.

ZileanUltJesusOPJun 12, 20151 votes

Coming from somebody who rarely plays annie, i dont think she is that op. She is good yes, but not op. Her q and w have very short ranges and flash isnt a basic abiltiy, it isnt up all the time. She also has 0 mobility. OP would be if her e was a dash to set up tibbers stun every fight. She has short range so when flash is downthe best she can do is stun the front line tanks as tibbers doesnt have the range to reach the back line from where she should be standing.