does twitch poison apply death fire touch?

Veraska·Dec 16, 2015·1 votes·4,611 views

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Sneakyy XDDec 16, 20153 votes

No, because his passive is an on-hit effect.

Brimaz The KingDec 16, 20151 votes

Yeah but you build no ap.

VeraskaDec 16, 20151 votes

They're increasing the ad ratio on DFT next patch. I might try it

Brimaz The KingDec 16, 20151 votes

Dot away fellow mtg fan.

Romans VI XXIIIDec 16, 20151 votes

I just tested this, and no twitches passive does not apply DFT, but as far as I could tell brands does

JustMyBassCannonDec 16, 20151 votes

And this is because Twitch's passive is an attack effect, rather than a spell effect (yes, he can apply stacks with his W, but that doesn't make it a spell effect). DFT applies with spell damage, and Brand's passive is spell damage because it only happens with spells.

DeathBurstDec 16, 20151 votes

And what about Darius bleed?

JustMyBassCannonDec 16, 20151 votes

Also an attack effect and won't use Deathfire Touch. However, it's a physical damage DoT, so it does apply Black Cleaver, as the only prerequisite to its proc is "physical damage."

Its primary source is basic attacks, so it's an attack effect. Basically how they chose to code these DoTs.

Romans VI XXIIIDec 16, 20151 votes

Exactly, its both a spell damage and on-hit and it does not work either

Romans VI XXIIIDec 16, 20151 votes

Then explain darius passive. its both an on-hit, and applied by abilites. and DFT does not apply from it either.

JustMyBassCannonDec 16, 20151 votes

Unlike Darius, Twitch's passive only states basic attacks, and then his W states that it applies his passive.

Darius' passive states attacks and damaging abilities.

He has 3 damaging abilities, only 2 of which actually apply spell effects (his Q and R). The primary source of his DoT is basic attacks, so it is treated as an attack effect instead of a spell effect. Rule of majority.

Romans VI XXIIIDec 16, 20151 votes

The primary source of his DoT is basic attacks, so it is treated as an attack effect instead of a spell effect. Rule of majority.

This makes no sense at all lol. The majority of how something is applied has no affect on how things work. Thats not how computer logic works at all. You can very well go an entire match of just applying his passive with just Q and R, thus making his AAs the minority and abilities the majority. Thus making your point mute.

The only solution to this is that Darius passive is actually an "On-hit", BUT Q and R apply it, as an added feature.

JustMyBassCannonDec 16, 20151 votes

I was explaining the reason it was coded to function as that, not the programming behind it.

My phrasing could have been better, yes.