PSA: Bloodrazor is significantly better than Devourer for game health!

Fanny Forecast·4/20/2016, 11:34:35 AM·16 votes·6,732 views

Shyv, Yi, Xin, Kayle, Warwick, and sometimes Kindred and a few others. From this change, the only ones being hurt by it are Xin and Yi.

Shyv and WW can now Jungle till 6, take drag on their own time (level 3 dragons, anyone?), and gank post-6 whenever they have ult. They don't have to worry about stacking anymore, which is great for them.

Kayle and Kindred didn't ever get devourer for the on-hit double-proc, it got nerfed to the shitter for them. They got it for the attack speed. They LOOOOOVE this, especially Kindred who is focused on early ganks, which this item allows for. (more so than Devourer, at least)

Yi needed this nerf, but he'll still love the physical damage. The nerf to this means you only have to build 2 stats against him instead of 3, now. HP and Armor, he won't do enough magic damage anymore to matter. (Guinsoos being super expensive, Bloodrazor doing Physical dmg)

Xin will suffer for I estimate about 2 patches from this. They'll buff him, he'll be op for 1-2 patches, then he'll be fine in both lane and jungle. So 3-4 patches from 6.9 (so around 6.12) Xin will FINALLY be viable in lane again and not just jungle. Overall a huge plus for Xin.

So basically, overall, Yi is the only one who got truly hurt by it, which makes me SO happy because I'm sick of seeing him, as is the rest of the boards...

My ONLY issue with it is that it stacks with botrk passive (which may or may not be an actual issue, we'd need to play test it first) which would simply be fixed by making their passives named uniques, like they did with cinderhulk/sunfire and runic echoes/ludens.

TL;DR: Every single devourer champion will become significantly healthier and easier to balance in both lanes and jungle. Master Yi will likely be shit, or at least a LOT easier to deal with.

41 Comments

Count Zubat4/20/2016, 5:03:49 PM7 votes

From Madred's through Feral Flare, 4.20 Devourer, Sated Devourer back to Madred's. That was quite a long journey. I'm so glad Devourer is gone.

LaserDeathBlade4/20/2016, 11:39:08 AM5 votes

Well RIP every champion that got nerfed due to Devourers.

RisenDarkKnight4/20/2016, 7:47:06 PM5 votes

Xin can just go Warrior. It's pretty good on him. Or he can get this and BoRK, either will be fine.

Twin TaiIs4/20/2016, 1:17:02 PM4 votes

Xin is fine. You can't play him as an AS champion but other choices exist (people forget AD Xin?) These champions needed the nerf, and this one's a good one. If their lane counterparts still want phantom hit, get ready to pay for it.

MunchCrunchLunch4/20/2016, 6:28:19 PM4 votes

its a terrible item for anyone that doesn't buy runnans. its terrible. its a RETARDEDly gimped version of botrk. the max health passive roughly equates the double current health damage botrk has. meanwhile botrk has lifesteal and ad and an active.

bottom line. it a terrible item for everyone but kindred. it might be okay for master yi but thats about it.

this item is only good on kindred and kayle. thats it. its not good on jax. its not good on xin. its not good on udyr. unless they give it more base stats. right now I'd rather get wits end.

Lugg4/20/2016, 5:11:11 PM3 votes

I agree. This will make the AA junglers actually balanced and MUCH less toxic.

Jesus is Savior4/20/2016, 10:38:04 PM3 votes

It's going to hurt the magic damage ones (like Warwick) because they generally take magic damage penetration masteries, build wit's end, etc

SlashStriker4/20/2016, 10:12:28 PM2 votes

3% max health phys damage kinda sucks actually 30 damage per 1000 health or 15 dmg vs 100 armor 120 damage per 4000 health or 40 dmg vs 200 armor

well... crits may do way better now. But I am glad that afk jungling is over

now heres a question - item 1415 Razorblade vs item 3153 Ruined king - better jungle item?

item 3715 vs item 1039 +item 1053


Udyr Udyr can combine Tiger and Phoenix for max damage which not many people do. Tiger 5 / turtle 4 / bear 4 / phoenix 5 - 18 level points

he can still go item 3124 rageblade if he desires to do major damage like he used to do with sated devourer and to pay extra gold. This item would be actually way stronger than devourer cause it gives AD, AP and AS on top of all other effects. Top dyr can be quite strong if he builds that as it buff both phoenix and tiger at the same time

Korusho4/22/2016, 5:47:58 AM2 votes

Did Riot not delete Bloodrazor because it was so utterly problematic that they couldn't balance it?

So to replace an utterly problematic item that couldn't possibly be balanced, they returned its ORIGINAL FORM?!

xevi4/28/2016, 9:30:49 PM1 votes

Vayne in the jungle again ^^

xBushx4/20/2016, 1:33:38 PM1 votes

So MUCH this^

Surr20plz4/20/2016, 10:36:31 PM1 votes

Razor is garbo and everyone got sej'd who used devourer.

gg