If Janna gets nerfed...

Fanny Forecast·2/14/2016, 11:22:03 AM·7 votes·1,161 views

...just because she has the second highest pick rate (in her meta, OH NO!!) and the highest win rate (at 54.29%) out of all supports, I'll be pretty damn pissed (and impressed that Riot reaches new levels of stupidity...)

In top lane, the top 5 win rates are above hers, the top 3 being 55% or above. Kayle top, at rank 6, is just 0.08% less than her. In mid lane, she's higher than everyone, but a lot of that is due to the powerhouses (lux, ahri, talon, zed, etc.) having high pick rates, diluting the wins. In jungle, she's higher than everyone except Udyr, who is at a MASSIVE 57.32% win rate while still having a pick rate of over 14%. In bot lane (adc), she's higher than everyone except Kog'Maw.

"Doesn't this prove their point?!" No, it doesn't. The meta currently revolves around assassins and bruisers (Udyr, Talon, Zed, Ahri, Pantheon, Fiora, etc.) and she is the biggest counter to that. On top of that, the current popular ADCs (last I checked, don't quote me on this) were more passive play styles (Ezreal, Vayne, Caitlin, etc.) and the ones who weren't, still work well with her (Lucian, Trist, Jhin).

The fact that she counters the meta in other lane and combos with the current popular ADCs means that she is going to have a better winrate than she normally does. This isn't bad and it happens every single time a champion becomes meta or becomes the counter to the meta. Any one of you that has been here, even since preseason, should know this. The minute something becomes meta its winrate skyrockets, and the minute people remember/figure out how to counter it, that winrate skyrockets and the meta, eventually, switches to that (or something else that gets massively buffed, like with the juggernaut patch).

TL;DR: Janna isn't broken, she's anti-meta (or even just meta). Stop complaining about counterplay.

48 Comments

Sir Yamazuki2/14/2016, 12:07:18 PM7 votes

The whole Meta argument is rather pointless when her win rate has been that high for ages. The only thing that has changed is her pick rate going up every patch, but even then it was already above average before the increase.

CatboyAsbel2/14/2016, 11:33:31 AM5 votes

Lmao

Janna is a free win if you even almost know how to play. Sit down

Akali is SO HOT2/15/2016, 6:18:22 PM3 votes

She's had a 53%+ winrate ever since her release

GEMS GEMS GEMS2/14/2016, 11:29:31 AM3 votes

No one thought she was broken. People just don't know how to deal with her utility. Plus a lot of people underestimate going against an enemy team with a janna which is probably why her win rate is so high tbh. Champion win rates aren't always accurate anyways just because win rates are so team dependent, not champion dependent.

I mean a Janna is only as strong as her own team. You can have all the cc in the world and the ability to sustain for a long time just by shielding turrets, but it doesn't matter if your team just doesn't have enough damage, tankiness or ability to focus certain champions.

Critmaster Garen2/14/2016, 12:15:29 PM2 votes

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The meta currently revolves around assassins and bruisers

high ranked solo que games and pro games are full of adc (2 to 3 on every team) and a mix of utility mages and assassins.

the meta has nothing to do with bruisers right now. it revolves around adc vs burst.

Drehirth2/15/2016, 8:22:54 AM2 votes

why was this thread downvoted, but that stupid thread about malphite upvoted so much??

Deep Terror Nami2/14/2016, 11:25:58 AM2 votes

I love when people pick Janna. It feels like Nami was built to beat the snot out of her.

alasarcher2/14/2016, 12:03:38 PM1 votes

Did someone even say she needs nerf? There arent nerfs even on PBE and she maintained same stats for months. Whats the point of this thread, unless its actually reverse psychology, like u asking for nerf.

FrankerX2/14/2016, 11:49:00 AM1 votes

riot has fun in season 6 dude :D

Cherysse2/14/2016, 12:18:33 PM1 votes

I would actually love to see a buff to her AP ratios... and by that I mean her lame damage.