The Loot System

JustaNewb··2 votes·1,180 views

Can anyone tell me how this is an improvement over being able to farm IP? Okay, you have a chance to get skins (which I say RIOT owes me over 3000$, since that is what I spent collecting "limited time" or "legacy skins" that they now let anyone get.) But, honestly, what else? You used to get IP every single game. So.

Explain?

17 Comments

DerMangoJoghurt3 votes

You get more blue essence on average than before, you save a lot of blue essence if you get a shard for a champion you want and you get free stuff like skins, wards skins and emotes.

Jamaree1 votes

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You get more blue essence on average than before, you save a lot of blue essence if you get a shard for a champion you want and you get free stuff like skins, wards skins and emotes.

That isn't fully true, on average, you will get less between 35 to 50, 55 to 75, etc.

Timethief493 votes

You dont have to buy runes or runepages anymore. You get champs a lot faster on average aswell.

Jamaree1 votes

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You dont have to buy runes or runepages anymore. You get champs a lot faster on average aswell.

Oh yeah, if you factor in that, most definitely, but the rate you gain currency is overall the same to less. For newer players, yeah, the system is just better as long as they are playing normals and using the discount system, the system is miles faster, however for veterans, you are now just getting less BE/IP.

Timethief492 votes

You gain less currency, but if you upgrade the champshards you need less currency to get the champs.

DerMangoJoghurt1 votes

That's new to me. Could you link the source?

Edit: Kinda rude to ask for a source and not provide my own. So here is it. Note that this was posted before multiple earn rate increases.

Jamaree1 votes

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That's new to me. Could you link the source?

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/r6ElH0uX-be-vs-ip-the-ip-system-was-better-until-you-bought-a-single-rune

Small sample size right now with only three samples, but as of right now, the math checks out.

The Ecdysiast2 votes

First off, you're wrong. There isn't even $250 of legacy skins. If you spent near $3000 then you're admitting you bought an account. Second, that has nothing to do with IP. The point now is that new players have a greater chance to just get the shard for a champion they want, so they can get it for half the BE cost.

JustaNewb1 votes

You do know there are 20 skins that had cost 20-30$ each, right? On top of this every single holiday had new "one time only" skins.

The Ecdysiast2 votes

Your math is atrociously wrong. $20 is 2800 RP.

JustaNewb1 votes

I... am fully aware of the valuation. However I am not going to waste time arguing things that are in absolute black and white on both my paypal, and my purchasing history, with a guy who thinks the bonus RP has always been a bonus.

The Ecdysiast2 votes

But you're going to sit here and pretend you're owed something because what you bought is no longer "exclusive"? You have no special privilege to ask that they disallow people to get those skins just because you've bought them before.

And blue essence has nothing to do with getting skins. You've brought up two unrelated points in the same post. BE and champion shards have nothing to do with skin shards aside from decreasing the odds you'll get one from a chest. I'm not sure what kind of 5-year break you must've taken to come back and think this is brand new, but you should really stay up-to-date on a game you've supposedly spent over 3k on.

JustaNewb1 votes

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The Ecdysiast1 votes

You haven't even made an argument though. All you did was ask how the crafting is better now, and you've received answers. Do you have an argument for how it's worse?

Crying that you spent money on something people can now also spend the same amount of money to possibly get isn't an argument.

JustaNewb1 votes

And I've left the ANSWERS alone. You are attempting to argue something that you have zero basis for, or knowledge about quite obviously. You are centered on one aspect of a post, and cherry picked it with a sense of failed expertise. Have a nice day, find someone else to bother.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

No, you've simply pretended you have some right to compensation for something you bought under the misconception that it would be unique with no regard to the quality. They owe you nothing for you making stupid purchases.

Jamaree1 votes

System is better outright from 1 to 30 (as long as you aren't playing bot games), better 30 to 35, you will get less BE then you would IP between 35 to 50 around 400 to 800 less which evens out if you use the discount system, the system is outright worst for veterans who already have everything unless they are lucky and only get 6300 champions from chest.

Riot doesn't owe you anything.

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