Can we increase this already? Premades will sit and rotate their dodges until they get a stomp comp, and tbh it gets a bit old.
How about this - we increase the dodge Timer for ARAM - but ONLY for ARAM.
If you can't handle the fact that your team/champion will be random - play a different mode.
Dead flag blues9 votesI'm getting pissed that Riot obviously stopped giving a shit about ARAM. They don't realize that a part of the playerbase is MOSTLY playing this mode, and people abusing it (by dodging as you said) or even making ARAM only accounts is fucking ruining this mode. 
in 95% of the games is extremely fun wow.
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I'm getting pissed that Riot obviously stopped giving a shit about ARAM. They don't realize that a part of the playerbase is MOSTLY playing this mode, and people abusing it (by dodging as you said) or even making ARAM only accounts is fucking ruining this mode.
Yes i have a couple on friends list who only play aram, and only featured game modes that are on aram map.
Ztoka9 votes15 minutes is pretty rough for a first dodge. Especially if/when the client bugs out. Rather than increase the dodge timer, some sort of memory should be there like someone dodges, next game everyone gets the same champ as they did last time, until the match is made. Then dodging would lose appeal because after the timer was up, you would still get the same champ you dodged because of. So many times, I have a champ I am excited to play and someone dodges. New lobby, another champ I like, someone dodges..
Maybe it would kill aram, maybe it would help it.
I'm pretty confident just about anyone who spends a decent amount of time in aram has an "aram" account.
Regardless of the timer though, that will never be a true deterrent imo. Dodge timer increases, we just make another aram account. Most people, I personally know, who play aram have 4 or 5 accounts. Now get 2-3 people in a premade who have that and you can take turns dodging games w/o true penalty for 10-15 games in a row if needed.
Unlocking the full champ pool has been mentioned in the past which would also be a good idea to combat aram accounts, but ONLY IF they unlock rewards for champs you don't own also..
SpiritOfOdysseus6 votesI'm pretty confident just about anyone who spends a decent amount of time in aram has an "aram" account.
Nope. I don't and I refuse to
Ztoka2 votesThat rocks!! Welcome to the minority [slayer-jinx-wink]
SpiritOfOdysseus1 votesJust went up against Brand, Vel Koz, MF, Kog Maw, and Urgotto
How can I not get tilted besides sitting in spawn and getting reported? lol
RocketRelm3 votesDepends on your team. If you've got Maokai+Leona, and your team recognizes Shurelias and Righteous as items, you should be able to stand a fair shot.
Baka Red2 votesI agree. There are always way to fight - giving up without the team agreeing on it or afking are not acceptable options. Granted, sometimes it doesn't matter and you will lose no matter what you do, but we have to do our best to give the enemy a 'good fight'. shrugs Maybe I am weird, but I like fighting the desperate defensive battles a lot more than those stomp'em down easy wins.
Ztoka1 votesThat rocks!! Welcome to the minority [slayer-jinx-wink]
HarrisonOwns1 votesYou and your friends are part of the problem. You should be heavily penalized.
shupface2 votesRegardless of the timer though, that will never be a true deterrent imo. Dodge timer increases, we just make another aram account. Most people, I personally know, who play aram have 4 or 5 accounts. Now get 2-3 people in a premade who have that and you can take turns dodging games w/o true penalty for 10-15 games in a row if needed.
What the actual eff? That's lame.
Makes me think the suggestion to have a regular howling abyss draft might be a good idea, if only to get rid of these kind of players from ARAM.
Ztoka2 votesI just think of how few dodges I see in poro king, because folks actually pick what/who they want, other than bans..
TempName748147 votesthe dodge timer is increased for ARAM. it starts at 15 minutes instead of 5 and goes up to an hour instead of 30 min
JustaNewb4 votesEnough time to go to the bathroom and grab a drink. It really isn't a punishment when you have 3-4 people. Especially considering the fact that you will sit through 8-10 queues before finally everyone stays. It would be far less common if it were actually any form of punishment.
DuskDaUmbreon3 votes15 isn't enough when we know the dodges are done nearly every time because you got a champ you didn't want.
Dodges should be a 25 minute minimum for all random champion game modes. This, so far, means ARAM, ARURF, and OfA.
HarrisonOwns1 votesIt's not enough.
Lil Lewd Witch3 votesI'd like this... trying to play aram usually means going through 4-5 last second dodges, taking up to 5-10 minutes just to get into an aram thats over in 15-20 minutes.
KrackProphet3 votesMy biggest issues is there is no reason for me to not get a full reroll after every game. I own every champion so those rerolls actually matter. Also, perm ban Teemo that cancerous little shit.
Khâmul3 votesNo half mesures Increase dodge timer Give access to all champions(vs aram accounts) Remove dices
It'll become a real aram,not "all mid all random aproximately until you get tour champions"
Ztoka1 votesJust unlock rewards on all champs then, otherwise it would be really lame and you will have even more dodgers.. Hate playing a champ and getting that message after the game, you can only earn chests/keys/mastery w/ champs you own.
webstar19952 votesI think it would be reduced slightly for higher elo ranked as well.
Ztoka2 votesWhat I think would REALLY help the dodge situation w/ aram and aram accounts would be to make a normal (maybe even ranked) mode on the howling abyss map where you can select your champ. Institute a draft/ban phase. Basically poro king mode w/o the poro king..
My guess is it hasn't been done because the SR map would die. It would be a blast though. Poro king is probably my favorite game mode. Minimal folks dodging also..
Minarde2 votesI don't think draft HA would work as a permanent mode, much less as a ranked queue. There's not enough (or any, really) balance changes to shift the champ meta, and there's not enough tactical options on the map to support alternate routes for victory. The mode seems like it'd stagnate and devolve into the same 30ish champs every game.
ARAM could work as ranked, since the randomness allows for a different skill test than the other ranked queues. On the other hand, draft HA would essentially just be SR-lite.
Hawthorn Tree2 votesOR Riot could give us a draft mode of Howling Abyss. I--along with probably a lot of people--honestly only enjoy the brainless death brawl part of ARAM, and actually hate the random rolls.
HarrisonOwns2 votesRiot ignores ARAM.
The community doesn't want it, because a lot of the community is trash that dodges.
If you dodge ARAMs, you shouldn't be playing ARAM. Period.
I don't care what you feel. "Waah I don't like X champion!" Tough shit. It's ARAM. "I don't like the comp we got! WAAAAH" Tough shit. It's ARAM.
Dodging should result in stiffer penalties and should be checked against a longer period of time. If you dodge so many in a week, month, etc. you should be heavily punished.
Krinu2 votesWhat if they made it so if you or a member of your group dodged, you'd get the same champion in your next ARAM? Rather than penalizing people for dodging, just remove the incentive.
JustaNewb1 votesIdea:
Baka Red1 votesARAM dodge timer is already three times longer than any other game mode dodge (Poro might have the same dodge timer).
Even though I play premade pretty much always, I would not mind making the timer longer, but I don't really see the point. I estimate that most people dodge a max of two times per day. Third one will be most likely too long to wait (I don't know - I never did that). We usually dodge maybe once a month total or less, and we play several games a day usually. Well, me and my friends are bakas, so we aren't that great in abusing things I guess. Sorry, we premades are really wicked and evil and deserve all the smiting you solos can throw at us. I guarantee it.
JustaNewb1 votesIt isn't exactly a complaint against Premades.
Ratpie1 votesMake a dodge count for everyone on the party. That way you cannot rotate who dodges, you all get hit.
I also like the idea that it just rolls you back to the same champ you had before if someone dodges. Then there is no point to dodges. If you do not like the champ you get, that is what the rerolls are for. If you used all your rerolls then maybe you need to learn more champs.
EloElXDee1 votesYea how about Riot fixes this mode so it's actually random? I literally got the same 2 champs alternate in rerolls for 4 games in a row. So I'm only allowed to play Ori, or kled? Then I dodge and get punished with a 15 minute timer because their system is rigged to certain toons instead of actually being random?