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@RiotRepertoir @riot Malzahar update thread

ClatoVerataNicto··2 votes·552 views

I love that you're talking to us so early about the mage update. Thank you. I found sifting through 6 different champions in one thread to be challenging, so I was hoping to start a discussion about my favorite champion Malzahar Malzahar.

Malzahar was my first true main and I am anticipating the update with a mix of fear and excitement. I feel that he has a very unique playstyle/kit and it is a definite draw to me. Thematically he is a badass, and I agree with some things I've read that he could be expressed much more vividly in this sense.

Things I like:

Malefic Visions is awesome. Unique in the way it jumps and has a mana mechanic. It truly feels like a plague is ruining it's target, then jumping to the next nearby victim to destroy them. There is nothing more satisfying than watching a champions life tick away, and them foolishly bringing death to their buddy.

Tank busting.

Anti-Assassin. I very much enjoy the fact that Nether Grasp allows Malz to be able to lane against assassins. Without his ult he would explode every time any assassin all-in'd him. Later in the game a combination of Null Zone and Nether grasp allow him to play body guard for any other squishies on the team.

The biggest complaint I've read about Malz is his ult. I do think it is one of the abilities that defines him and makes him a great duelist. Used correctly it is devestating. Used poorly his ult is more likely to kill you than your target. Positioning is so importand in general, and especially so for Nether Grasp.

Riot, I'd love to know what aspects of his kit you feel are unhealthy and have a discussion. Thanks!

3 Comments

warmcorntortilla1 votes

If they don't keep his ult, then his ability to lane against assassins will drop dramatically. The one sure-fire counter play to extreme mobility is point-and-click CC. It's his only form of dependable CC. Because of the way it's designed, you have to mess up BEFORE he gets to ult you. By itself, it does no damage.

Maybe if they made it ramp-up off his other abilities, like getting stacks or something. That way, he wouldn't be able to use it late game to just destroy people, he'd still have to use one of his other abilities first to combo you. One thing I can understand that's annoying is that if he DOES get fed, he can pretty much just ult a squishy and kill them outright. Giving it nerfed base damage and more combo damage would stop him from being able to do that while still retaining his ability to combo assassins and punish them for all-inning you, and his ability to wait and combo unsuspecting roamers. It would still be useful for pick CC if he wants to use it to just pick someone out, but it would make the damage more manageable. It would reward good Malzahar playing and punish bad Malzahar playing.

ClatoVerataNicto1 votes

I have an idea. His ult only suppresses someone with malefic visions on them. If they don't have visions, they are stunned/slowed to 99%/something else. This way they don't fall under suppression rules unless malz makes a very distinct decision to target them.

warmcorntortilla1 votes

This might work if they made his E instant cast so you can combo them when you get dove. I don't know if it has to be E, maybe if they've just been affected by any of his spells in the last .5/1 sec, because a lot of these champions are genuinely very fast, or you only have a portion of a second to react. But that's a good idea and I think it would do a lot to remove the cheese factor of his ult.

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