Champions that scale into late game hard, should have HORRIBLE early games.

Lunar ArcS·8/11/2019, 5:53:42 PM·5 votes·1,617 views

Kassadin, veigar, nasus kayle. (Kayle barely applies to this because her kit very much feels like she is very weak until 11-16) Should all have very very bad earlies if they are going to have god like late games. There are runes they can take that make bullying them near impossible and if you cant bully them they come out ahead. And frankly that doesnt make sense to me. Nasus getting to have stacks so easily to just one shot u at 15 minutes with a q doesnt seem like he is a late game champ anymore but more of a good champ to op champ late. So fucking irritating that early game champs fall off but they cant even do their job as early game champs bc riot wants to let late game users use fleet or grasp or whatever to just play extra safe early.

16 Comments

Pika Fox8/11/2019, 5:57:23 PM4 votes

Nasus is garbage late. Hes a mid game champion. Late game he just gets kited to hell and is only useful if you let him splitpush, which doesnt work well as someone without a reliable escape or shen ult.

Get Ogre Here8/11/2019, 5:55:33 PM2 votes

They're fixing Kayle to be more moderate (stronger early, weaker late), but I agree. Some champions are way too strong early for how strong they are late. For me, Vayne immediately comes to mind.

Eedat8/11/2019, 6:01:59 PM2 votes

All 4 of those champs do in fact have garbage early games. Sounds to me like you're just mad people dont run in and feed you and actually play around the fact that they're weak early

preternatural8/11/2019, 6:23:26 PM1 votes

well they do have horrible early games, problem is between all the goodies in the item shop, the rune page, summoner spells, and a litany of champions to be cast against or with these things get covered. and the mid game starts sooner than it has historically, likewise for late game. when your team fails early to mid transition it's ff20 or 25 because people like voting no.

Xhaiden8/11/2019, 6:35:53 PM1 votes

Above champs have a decent early game - "only on specific situations". The keyword here is "counter-play".

Veigar - is broken on ARAM. On the other hand... on Summoner's Rift - there's so many champions that counter him - that play him can be cringe worthy - early mid game. For example...

Veigar vs. Fizz , Morgana , Lux , Velkoz and so on (basically, almost every long range APC besides FIzz).

Same goes for Nasus . Champions like ( Teemo , Vayne or Quinn - can really tilt a Nasus player early game - by denying his farm and force him under turret (crying for babysit from his JG).

This season i don't remember seeing more than one Kassadin in Rank. He's like a ghost - as can be seen in the play rate stats:

https://na.op.gg/champion/kassadin/statistics/mid

https://mobalytics.gg/blog/lol-tier-list-for-climbing-solo-queue/ Tier B.

As for Kayle . She used to be really broken after rework. Tho, since then - she got nerfed quite a lot. This days - even late game she's not that OP (goes down quite fast - while facing units heavy on CC).