but then riot decided he cant have anything unique about him anymore. the entire reason i loved him and wanted to get him to begin with was because he was very unique and fun to play. then they removed almost everything that made him unique until all thats left is his passive and his e passive. the guy went from being one of my favorite champs to play to me not really wanting to play him anymore.
Zair Umbras2 votesLucian hasn't had any significant changes in over a year... >>
I Main Swain1 votesdid you not even read the patch notes? the one in which his ult was made to no longer scale with atk speed?
Void Nargacuga2 votesYeah that's a buff... In my opinion at least. Build him 
for a Dash Dash Lighslinger Revolution with high AD over Attack speed.
I Main Swain1 votesok, then did you not read my post? either way that's a significant page, and im not talking about his strength. im talking about how fun he is to play. never once did i say i thought he was weak.
Void Nargacuga1 votesYes I did, and I personally enjoy the Dash Dash Lightslinger fun...
Chaotic Sage2 votes'No longer fun' is a subjective term. Maybe modify it to I no longer enjoy playing Lucien or something? Just my opinion, but in this post alone there are people that appear to still like playing him...
I Main Swain1 votesi guess my complaint is more the fact that they removed so many unique qualities from him, which subsequently caused him to lose his flavor for me. its like deciding your dish is too seasoned so you make a new one with no seasoning, thinking that will be better.
Chaotic Sage2 votesWhat did they actually remove, the only significant change I see is that they took away the AS scaling ult.
I Main Swain1 votesif youre talking about in just the last patch, the ult was the only significant change. if youre talking about in general, they:
made his second aa do 50% dmg (justifiable really)
removed the slow removal on his e
made it so his ult kills no longer reset his e
i may be wrong, but im pretty sure they made it so his ult no longer procs the ms boost from w
made his e go from no mana cost, to no mana cost at last rank (shoulda kept it that way), to costing mana all ranks
and, i may be remembering wrong with this as well, but i believe they reduced his atk range
Chaotic Sage2 votesYea, that's what I figured. Those are balanced changes, not changing his identity. He was deemed too strong with what was taken away and thus it's gone. Additionally I don't think they removed the MS bonus from ult hitting the lit target. His identity is the same, they just took some excess power away. Though the ult change most recently I think is actually a buff in a way.
I Main Swain1 votesi mentioned the ms-with-ult thing because a few times i saw a lucian w then ult them and it didnt do anything, so i figured it was either a common glitch, a rare glitch i just happened to see multiple times, or it got changed and i forgot/didnt know.
i wasnt saying they were identity changes, and thats beside the point really. the point is, they took away a lot of unique aspects of the champ that made him fun, and interesting to play and gave him, at least for me, a very strategic play style, which i absolutely love (hence the swain main). now, to me, hes no more special than sivir.
Zair Umbras1 votesI wouldn't consider that 'significant' when it comes to his playstyle. He still plays the exact same, his ult just does more damage and does that damage at a constant rather than more damage if he has an extra level because of the AS/lvl.
Honestly, if you think his ult change is significant enough to say he's now boring, then you were never enjoying Lucian to begin with since everything else about him is still the very same.
I Main Swain1 votesto me that wasn't as much a playstyle thing as it was a buildstyle thing. im not saying his ult change was enough to make him boring, im saying that it was the final straw for me in a long series of removing unique qualities from him. to me, the changes they made to his ult are like making it so hecarims passive is now flat bonus damage rather than scaling off ms
Erockandroll2 votesplaying this game for a while, I noticed that Lucian had very few unique powerspikes. Mostly in the sense that he could make multiple builds work. Prior to patch 4.10 (the marksman patch) He was a able to use BT + Tri force, for a powerful earlygame presence. After the patch, people did a Double blade build (Yomue's + BotRK) because his passive applied on hit effects, giving him a powerful mid game. And later game a more normal late game carry build with crit chance.
With all that in mind, I think focusing him more as a caster is a better fit for him. The changes that they made to his ult mean that he doesn't have to rely on AS. He can now build more Caster, (probably getting the new ER.) But even if his build is similar to other casters ADC's such as Ez or Corki, his kit and his abilities give him a significantly different playstyle.
I Main Swain1 votesthat's not my point. im not saying hes bad, im saying hes no longer fun.