Fun little fact, the PBE Fizz changes are a nerf to BOTH tank and AP Fizz (until 375+ AP).

Joxcab··15 votes·545 views

Tank Fizz needed base damage nerfs. He got them.

AP Fizz didn't really need nerfs at all. Base damage nerfs still nerfs AP Fizz. So the solution was to give scaling compensation. Weaker early, stronger late. Not necessarily optimal, but not that bad and it still solves the issues of Tank Fizz without overly harming AP Fizz.

Tank Fizz will be weaker at all points in the game regardless of how many items he has. AP Fizz will be weaker until he gains over 375 AP (breaks even at 375).

Fizz's standard build items do not have that much AP relatively compared to higher pure AP items, because he goes for utility or effects instead, such as Zhonya's, Protobelt, Lich Bane, Void Staff, etc.

AKA getting to 375 will take a while.

THE NERFS ARE TO THE REGULAR W. AKA, THE EMPOWERED W NERFS ARE THREE TIMES THAT OF THE REGULAR.

So no, it is not just a plain buff to AP Fizz. Please stop spreading that blatantly incorrect lie. kthxbai

#wew lad downvotes for informing the public of an incorrect lie being spread around

4 Comments

Shaydrox7 votes

Fizz midlane is deleting people like it's nothing whenever I see him. I think he'll be perfectly viable even with these earlygame nerfs, his R -> Q -> W damage is still very strong not to mention his E can finish off enemies or let him escape for free.

Joxcab2 votes

He didn't really need the earlygame nerfs nor the lategame buffs, but I can't really think of any other way to just nerf tank Fizz without straight nerfing AP Fizz.

Dracocrash5 votes

you are 100% correct.

but you have -1 for some reason, (probably the salty players who get rekted by fizz) Here have an upvote.

Shablagoo3 votes

Mid laners and adc's hate fizz because he is an assassin, yes tank fizz got nerfs but the min they see fizz or an assassin doing well they will complain. Fizz is literally the only successful assassin in the game, honestly without his ult hit he cant oneshot ppl, there is counter-play by dodging the r, but ppl dont want to admit this because they are salty. They see the scaling is up so the whine and complain.

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