Get rid of heimdinger

funkdubious2·Apr 5, 2019·2 votes·1,138 views

Totally broken champ. Only recourse on him is 2v1 where 1 of you manages to get behind all the stupid gun turrets.

Which the gun turrets shouldn't be 4 hits to take out, they should be one hit because of how far he can throw them. He literally risks nothing throwing out gun turrets everywhere killing you, while you try to take out just one of them.

His E has very long range, again he risks nothing.

His Ult, the big gun thing, fine. give it some armor. whatever. Again, he risks nothing.

Tips for countering as Kayle?

9 Comments

Inkling CommandoApr 5, 20192 votes

translate: dinger got fed last game and fucked me over.

funkdubious2Apr 5, 20192 votes

Yeah he got fed, it was easy to destroy me even under a tower

Ashe was his lane mate... huge amount of DPS early game.

Tips for countering?

Inkling CommandoApr 5, 20191 votes

so it was 2v1 top or were you in another lane?

JaspersApr 5, 20191 votes

Looking at the match history they were different games but 2 games in a row they had an enemy team with no jungler.

Kayle into Heimer will never be a good matchup (early) just wait and farm til 11 then you can just auto his turrets outside their range. Also, in a game against Heimer top as Kayle, you rush Wit's End.

Baron BarianApr 5, 20191 votes

I garantee you that the issue is that you're till relatively new to the game.

But honestly, I would just play smarter if you're going up against him with someone with an early game as poor as Kayle.

funkdubious2Apr 5, 20192 votes

Granted. Got any tips for countering?

Baron BarianApr 5, 20191 votes

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Granted. Got any tips for countering?

A few. People probably don't like them, but there are. The tl:dr will be at the very bottom.

It is REALLY had for a jungler to gank a Heim, especially if he's top AND if the jungler is a powerfarmer like Rengar, who can't gank well until 6, even if you're pushed to your tower (which actually makes it harder to gank him), So if your jungler never ganks top, don't get mad. He's just playing smart.

A lot of melee guys have a hard time in this match up, because with a few exceptions, Heim will always be able to out poke you. As long as you respect that early power he has and only take the cs you can get without getting all-in'ed, you'll eventually outscale. Heim isn't nearly as threatening in the late game as you would think unless he's way ahead of everyone. A lvl 16 Kayle for instance will be much more terrifying than a lvl 16 Heim.

He isn't nearly as troublesome in mid because most mid champs can properly poke consistently and wave clear anyway. Because of this, isn't not always a bad idea to bring typical mid laners top just to counter Heim (Liss has always been a popular mage to bring top). Still, some top laners do still have the poke needed to take down turrets and slow down the constant shoving. I remember winning against a Heim once as Nasus simply because I picked his E first, which helped pushed back that shoving, then I was just able to murder him when I was actually ready to fight him.

Tl:dr: Don't expect/encourage ganks, be patient and avoid unnecessary risks for small gains, and focus on pushing the lane more than pushing out Heim himself.

Tr4shB4NSYST3MApr 5, 20191 votes

Donger is just an obnoxious champ, he's kind of a ranged singed in that he wants you to chase him around his turrets and hit you w/ rockets and stuns.

I just ban him b/c i don't wanna deal with the hassle and ive seen donger mains make melee champs cry too many times.