Ashe "Nerf" On Q Activation vs. Turrets - Why? (POLL)

Blame The Carry·Jun 11, 2015·1 votes·1,369 views

After patch 5.10 and 's rework, I think everyone was delighted to see that the Frost Archer has become more viable and fun to play as ever, her capability as an ADC after her rework made her akin to in that she is now able to provide consistent damage and utility in the form of her ultimate and E as well as her passive slow throughout the game. The cherry on top was the fact that with the charge on Ranger's Focus, you could not take out turrets at the same speed as say or .

As you can see in the Patch Notes (link) for 5.11, the way this seems to be described is that Ashe could somehow proc Ranger's Focus off of attacking turrets, which **IS NOT **the case at all. Just like with Lightslinger's double-shot, in order to proc Ranger's Focus, you would have to attack minions / use Volley to proc the ability BEFORE you could use the bonus AD and attack speed against a turret. I'm not sure if this is a misunderstanding or what, but this actually, in my opinion, lowers Ashe's viability again, as other ADCs such as and can shred turrets faster with similar mechanics that haven't seen much alteration (other than the attack speed nerf on Jinx's mini guns in 5.10) since they debuted.

Does anyone else agree that this was not needed? That doing so places Ashe backward in the viable ADC line-up for season 5 even after her rework which brought her back into the spotlight? Yea, so the damage was reduced on Volley, I get that. But why take away her capability of securing objectives?

4 Comments

NilokJun 11, 20151 votes

Simple, it was encroaching on the "fantasy" of using abilities on Turrets, which belongs only to Tristana now, which Tristana players wish would just go away so Tristana could have a more rounded kit.

PrinceArchieJun 11, 20151 votes

Ashe can kill turrets as fast if not faster than Lucian. She's much faster and even without the new Q, shes always been able to take them fast with enough attack speed.

Blame The CarryJun 11, 20151 votes

That's not really my beef, though. In my opinion, there was nothing about proc-ing your Q on minions and using your stacks on a turret to do more damage to it and therefore take it faster that was OP in any way. Jinx for example, with a charged mini gun, can take a turret / inhib quickly when split pushing which would then proc her passive and allow her to gtfo before the enemy team reacted. Ashe, with her Q proc was given that chance, combined with the vision provided by her E, making her a better split pusher than she was prior. Does this eliminate her split pushing ability? Nah, but it does make it a little hard (again)

ValheeruJun 12, 20151 votes

Like i stated earlier Rito wants ashe to be a training dummy for players learning to play adc and discard when playing ranks because seriously who would choose her as a 'Support' ADC when you can have a adc /support that fills the role better, And if someone says she was played on ranked, I would point out when was the last time ashe was played in LCS prior to 5.10 . Disgusted with the carrot for 2 weeks then nerf.