There is a problem when people in high elo dodge when they see Nasus in their team

Carnarius·8/1/2016, 3:41:54 PM·5 votes·1,296 views

i'm afraid that 70% of people think that this champion is a free win for enemy, some of them dodge or what's even worse - many of my teammates start the game with negative attitude

it's not that i'm complaining, but perhaps he could use some buffs, as he is untouched in like 3 years already? playing him in high elo enviroment is really a miserable experience, not because he is super weak (at least for me) but because how bad this champion is in eyes of other players

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Carnarius8/1/2016, 9:54:23 PM2 votes

better stats
withers range
something (damage dealt from ult transfered into health instead of attack damage for example)

he doesn't need much, but definitely some buffs would make him more viable without making him too strong in lower elos. people were always crying about wither and i'd have nothing against nerfing its movement speed part and adding something else to it

J Epstein8/1/2016, 3:53:32 PM1 votes

Maybe people in high elo should get gud...

Ravenous Howls8/1/2016, 8:22:03 PM1 votes

The problem is this exactly though. It's all the negativity that surround him on both sides. We have the criers in low elo who think he is OP and should be nerfed into oblivion (Hello Kassadin), high elo who thinks he sucks and should not be played competitively and then there are us few true mains who think he's is borderline too weak and needs some slight tuning to bring him in line with more meta picks.

Two things would bring him back in line in this meta.

Refund the Wither nerf. Give him back the range and AS slow so he can be relevant and scary against AA'ers and ADC's in team fights. Garen has a silence and true damage nuke, Darius has hard CC grab, slow and true damage nuke with an OP early game passive. Why can't Nasus have his infuriating slow?
Give him better base stats or growth so he is more in line with other Juggernauts. As it is right now he has far lower base stats and growth than any juggernaut and even half the fighters and other bruisers. I think these minor tweaks would see him remain healthy and push him back into a more competitive form without making him overpowered.

If RIOT refuses these changes then the only viable thing to do would be to give back some power to all the items he uses that got gutted. TF, IBG, FH and SV all got gutted over the last year are not nearly as good as they were. Problem with this is makes the other abusers strong again and essentially means they would have to nerf/buff multiple champs to get the values balanced. I think the lesser of evils would be to give Nasus the small QL buffs he needs.

The META has too much MS and overloaded kits hovering around not to mention tons of free damage making juggernauts lives far more miserable. And honestly Riot's track record reworking champs is atrocious and I don't want Nasus to be another Fiora, Mordekaiser or god forbid Kassadin...

Ravenous Howls8/1/2016, 11:12:44 PM1 votes

How would he catch his targets if the slow is reduced? He would need something like free tenacity then or greater movement speed while moving towards a withered target. Which basically accomplishes the same thing as wither currently stands. Maybe an interaction with his Spirit Fire but then this pushes him into riots obsessed realm of over complicated kits and rework mini game combos. I don't know m8 I want changes but I am afraid riot will miss the mark and cause more damage than harm. I'd be happy with the base stat increases and better wither range.

Ravenous Howls8/3/2016, 12:37:19 PM1 votes

Correct me if I am missing something but Storm Raiders only helps you shrug off slows right? So it does absolutely nothing if you get stunned, rooted, knocked up or otherwise. Maybe I will try it again but I just feel like Grasp does more for me late game in terms of surviving. Also if that siege minion change ever starts again SotA will be total garbage in terms of picking up b/c you will not be able to get it fully stacked until late game.

You are right that Frozen Mallet is niche at best but it is still obnoxious to come across it regardless of when. Also, the fact that any low CD ability that acts like an AA or a champion that has ranged AA can constantly apply that slow makes it far more obnoxious than wither could ever be.

Rylai's is one of if not the most broken item in the game. It's extremely easy to build and makes mages nearly unreachable without a pick and seeing how almost every mid lane and support lane is a ranged AA mage it is guaranteed to show up every game.

Speaking of items for bruisers they have all seen tremendous nerfs over the last few months and feel worse than ever.

IBG got -25% of base AD for the sheen proc... Much rather they would have hit sunfire cape only and left IBG alone.

FH feels terrible to rush in most AD match up's

TF takes far too long to build as Nasus b/c let's face it you are not going to be in a CS/kill lead almost ever so IBG is going to feel more natural b/c it let's us survive and do damage but it is underwhelming the longer the game goes on and armor get's stacked.

Tenacity does almost nothing for you unless you and your team are ahead. Making it almost completely useless outside of early game...