Could we get a MR item that gives 20% CDR?

Rebonack·Jun 8, 2017·1 votes·320 views

Grail is apparently dropping to 10% (not that it was ever a Tank item to being with) and this seems like a pretty obvious itemization hole.

9 Comments

VisionovaJun 8, 20171 votes

Where would a build path for an MR item with no HP even get CDR from? I know some items get 10% CDR spontaneously, but 20% when no possible components have it is a bit much.

At least I assume it'd have no HP, being an MR counterpart to Frozen Heart.

MysterQJun 8, 20171 votes

MR + Sheen into a Gauntlet type item.

RebonackJun 8, 20171 votes

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Where would a build path for an MR item with no HP even get CDR from? I know some items get 10% CDR spontaneously, but 20% when no possible components have it is a bit much.

At least I assume it'd have no HP, being an MR counterpart to Frozen Heart.

Make an item that builds out of item 1057 that gives 10% CDR. Incorporate that into the various MR items that are giving 10% CDR out of nowhere. It's been a long time coming.

HyperiönJun 8, 20171 votes

There is already such an influx of CDR ingame. We don't need more.

You have Spirit Visage already

RebonackJun 8, 20171 votes

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There is already such an influx of CDR ingame. We don't need more.

You have Spirit Visage already

That would be relevant if Spirit Visage still gave 20% CDR.

Asayake 5150glowJun 8, 20174 votes

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There is already such an influx of CDR ingame. We don't need more.

You have Spirit Visage already

Tanks actually have the worst CDR itemization in the game. Abyssal helped, but you still need Iceborn or Frozen heart to get to 40% CDR.

ErockandrollJun 8, 20171 votes

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Tanks actually have the worst CDR itemization in the game. Abyssal helped, but you still need Iceborn or Frozen heart to get to 40% CDR.

Just looking at components, the only ones that really matter are Kindlegem and Glacial shroud when it comes to tanks. But that said, AD only has Warhammer, and AP has Fiendish codex. So really the best access to CDR is to the hybrid classes who can build either.

But I digress, we're talking completed items. Where Morello's is a staple for AP and TF for AD, we only have Frozen Heart and ICB as tank items with 20% CDR. Though those don't really stand out as good options if a) you don't use mana, or b) if you not in an AD matchup.

That said, are Tanks really in a position where they should have access to tons of CDR? Will such itemization get abused by other roles? (Don't expect 20% on SV with the likes of Mundo and vlad around) Given that Everyone starts with MR greater than their Armor, pairing that with a strong MR in a starting item, may invalidate an AP matchup early on.

ModKnightsKemplarJun 8, 20171 votes

I don't see a problem with balancing around having less available CDR for tanks. Why is it necessary to hit the CDR cap if all the champs are balanced without doing so?

MysterQJun 12, 20171 votes

I think EVERY item should have less CDR.

CDR should be a huge powerspike you CHASE after. Not something you just get freely and in excess. If you are building specifically for CDR it should happen, not just by chance on good items.