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Nasus Ulti Powercreep

An Draoi·4/4/2018, 5:27:16 PM·2 votes·683 views

Anyone else feel like Nasus ult has slowly become more powerful over patches? He's not very weak during early anymore, once he gets a sheen, hits level 6 and has about 70 stacks he can 1v1 most champions, I think it's largely due to powercreep on his ult.

His ult now gives at rank 1:

  1. 300 bonus hp
  2. 50% q cdr reduction (!!!!!!)
  3. 1 bonus mr and armor per second (15 bonus resistances over the duration so not super impactful)
  4. bonus attack range (just 50)
  5. hefty aoe magic damage (3% of max hp per second , which is 45% over the duration -at rank 1, this becomes 150% at rank 3-)

now I leave some details out. for example, while he has a 45% max hp damage over the duration, you probably won't get all that damage off, but it's still large enough to not be ignored (also factoring in resistances, this usually comes out to closer to 30% at low levels when most people have like a 30-40% mr redux)

my biggest gripe is with nasus's q cdr on his ult. i dont remember which patch it was added, but it gives him a massive power spike at level 6. couple this with the base AD every champ got as compensation at the beginning of season 8, and sheen is also a giant powerspike on nasus.

i feel as though if they reverted his ult so that he doesn't get the cdr boost on his q, he would be a lot more manageable early.

do you think they should remove the q cooldown on nasus ult?

7 Comments

sit kid4/4/2018, 5:56:46 PM1 votes

i think its justified that he requires multible people taking him down, considering how he gets kited in teamfights

spri014/4/2018, 10:39:32 PM1 votes

As far as tanks go top lane I feel like Nasus is pretty balanced. If you stand there toe-to-toe with a Nasus who is Ulted and has you withered and standing on his E, you ought to have your face beat in.

If you get him to pop ult by baiting or because he is afraid of dying before going all-in and play around his wither he is very beatable.

IMO you should have to kite him to beat him as most champions. Standing there trading autos into an ulted nasus while you are withered should be a lost fight.

An Draoi4/5/2018, 9:13:40 PM1 votes

He's extremely hard to kite, especially if you're not very mobile. Some tanks aren't. Outside of mobility spells, his Wither is crippling over that duration.

And I disagree really. You should HAVE to kite his late game, he was originally designed to be a late game powerhouse juggernaut. But his "late game" is much earlier than it used to be.

Swiftstrike44/25/2018, 10:10:15 AM1 votes

Nasus probably needs another buff to his kit. But yes his ultimate has been buffed multiple times, but all it does is initially even out his win rate and then it dips again as the season progresses.

He is so easily kited that he needs the defensive steroids.

Seriously, Nasus can build full tank, have a defensive steroid, do a % shred on his E, and has lower cooldown on his Q and yet...he still sucks at team fighting and his win rate is always modest to low.

He feels really bad this season since the end of preseason and the indirect nerfs he had from rune changes.