Jhin actualy isnt that good and needs a few changes

9kPluzZ··1 votes·1,064 views

i feel like they went a little too far with the ammo mechanics honestly. Its so awkward, and fuck you over alot of the time. He needs some kind of att speed increase to reloading. its also Terrible in bottom lane as well. Someone like caitlyn just shits all over jhin. (from the match-ups i seen). He would be a good midlaner but 0 escapes, so he get shat on by assassins.

Also his ult is crazy unreliable, too many times that it literally does nothing at all. It has way too much delay in-between shots, sure it feels good, but it so unreliable. Also his traps hardly do the damage.

Anyone feel jhin would be way better without the 0 at speed passive? It just feels so bad in large team fights. No idea why people are banning him, not broken or even op at all. Lategame Cait does 3x the dps as jhin, with a escape and reliable traps. No reason to pick jhin bot over cait as it stands. At the least riot needs to decrease delay between his ult shots. Just my opinion, don't flame me plz.

Edit: I want logical arguments for why he can stand to meta ADC such as cait, Lucian, and corki

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ItsCalledALance2 votes

Its logical to assume that you are the problem not the champ. Jhin has not been out long enough to have been mastered.

Dont look at Jhin like the release of the last 5 champs which had/have no weaknesses. Just figure out how to work around his.

9kPluzZ

It just the design is obviously flawed. A adc with no dps at all. Note all the adc that have little dps.... Ezreal Corki maby Lucian What do they all have in common? a escape and a reliable ulti. also thy can also quickly change from ult for burst to dps. Jhin how ever just stand there, to get the whole ulti off. He needs more Dps.

Ralanr4 votes

He's not a dps marksman. He's a burst marksman, like Graves.

9kPluzZ1 votes

That's my point, he is a burst marksman with no escape. Even graves has more potential to get that burst through plus escape/ positioning.

Ralanr1 votes

He makes up for his lack of escape with massive range and his traps. He's like an immobile Mage.

And why should he have an escape because other marksmen have one? That gives too many similarities to marksmen.

Vistha Kai1 votes

His traps are highly useless, an annoyance at best, though.

Ralanr3 votes

Welcome to the hell of immobile mages.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Beyond having nearly all mandatory AP items nerfed for the sake of "diversity", how so?

Ralanr1 votes

Trying to escape from someone with mobility.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Most of them have at least a way to fight back.

Jhin on the other hand is completely screwed if he can't two-shot somebody with last, say, two bullets.

Ralanr1 votes

Well one is a guaranteed crit.

Zorae421 votes

So like Varus? He has 0 mobility too. His slow is terrible and his ult is not very on demand, lasts for a very short time, and isn't good as an escape tool unless you were already almost safe.

Or Lux but AD? If you miss your binding or don't kill with your combo, you're dead.

Vistha Kai1 votes

AD Lux. Mage Varus.

What the actual f-

9kPluzZ1 votes

His long rang is in a 10sec cool down W and 70sec CD ult. He can't spam any of it. Xerath is long range, spamable skills. Cait is long range 30 sec CD ult, 5 sec CD q, and 650 auto ranged. Jhin is less long range as Ezreal....

Ralanr1 votes

He's not a spell spammer from what I can tell.

ItsCalledALance2 votes

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It just the design is obviously flawed. A adc with no dps at all. Note all the adc that have little dps.... Ezreal Corki maby Lucian What do they all have in common? a escape and a reliable ulti. also thy can also quickly change from ult for burst to dps. Jhin how ever just stand there, to get the whole ulti off. He needs more Dps.

You do not understand what DPS is.

Everything in the game deals DPS. Even the void-lings that come from Zzrot.

With a guaranteed crit every 5th hit I would argue that Jhin has some of, if not the highest Damage Per Second in the game.

That said, there just is not enough data on this champ for anyone to claim anything about him without looking salty.

A level 18 Jhin critical hitting you for 2500 does not need "maor deeps"

9kPluzZ1 votes

Mean while caitlyn does the something 2twice as much in half the time

ItsCalledALance1 votes

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Mean while caitlyn does the something 2twice as much in half the time

Then play her.

Lovely Pants2 votes

He's an AD burst Caster with long range presence who isn't an optimal duelist. That sounds more like the best success Riot has had with the class than a design problem to me. Not going to say too much about my opinions on him balance wise since it's been such a short time, but I think the execution of his design feels like one of the cleanest and most purposeful releases we've had.

If you really need to optimize his dps in an extended trade instead of playing more towards opportunistic sniping, one thing I've noticed fairly quickly is that if you save the W for use when you need to reload, it meshes well with the reload time, allowing you to at least keep up constant threat. That's also probably the point in a duel where you an make the best use of his root either to pursue or decide you would like to retreat if the root does land. Not incredibly reliable in a duel, but again, I think that's a major purpose of his kit.

ItsCalledALance2 votes

All this crying is history repeating itself. NA is going to bitch bitch bitch until some Asian dude mains it and blows everyone out of the water, then suddenly its going to be a main stream op pick for freelo.

its the same crap every time.

9kPluzZ1 votes

Dude no need to be toxic I was just trying to start a discusion on jhins viabliity. Right now as it stands, to me at least . he can use a few tuneups.

I can tell you right now though with ADC like caitlyn/ Lucian and mids like Quinn/corki. Jhin won't see play in lcs

ItsCalledALance1 votes

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Dude no need to be toxic I was just trying to start a discusion on jhins viabliity. Right now as it stands, to me at least . he can use a few tuneups.

I can tell you right now though with ADC like caitlyn/ Lucian and mids like Quinn/corki. Jhin won't see play in lcs

Its not toxic, dont be so sensitive.

LCS? Shaco says "bitch please!"

Protokai2 votes

jihn has amazing dmg first game i played with him i got 30 kills :/ really dont know what you are complaining about.(but dear lord varus seems to wreck me everytime)

9kPluzZ1 votes

You saying that you did that well proves nothing. Because you were probly playing against another jhin who fell behind and couldn't get damage out at all.

Ralanr2 votes

...that's a large generalization.

Protokai1 votes

ok here i had 5 games with him 4 in draft only lost 1 so eh ? http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/25450162#matches

Doctor Jarvis1 votes

His traps should really take less time to detonate. You have to either stupid or CCed to get hit by those things. Granted he can CC you once you step onto them, but he shouldn't HAVE to.

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