@Riot: Maw of Malmortius gives you the rough equivilant of 4822.82 gold worth of stats...

Raxistaicho·Dec 22, 2016·6 votes·620 views

When vs an AP champion when Lifegrip goes active.

I'd like to know how that's even remotely fair.

13 Comments

Silly NeekoDec 22, 20164 votes

It also only activates if hit by magic damage when low on HP. Go build that gold efficient item vs a full AD team xD

Asayake 5150glowDec 22, 20161 votes

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It also only activates if hit by magic damage when low on HP. Go build that gold efficient item vs a full AD team xD

Is good against Garen tho. Should be a decent counter, as he doesn't have the damage to finish you after his ult.

LauchmelderDec 22, 20161 votes

The problem is: it negates all damage. It's not a shield it's a banshee's veil that only procs if you're low on HP.

The ability to QSS a Zeds Death Mark was removed. And then they create an item that has the same use but counters AP.

Silly NeekoDec 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=MadKnife IV,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n6wONsQE,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2016-12-22T23:50:57.429+0000)

The problem is: it negates all damage. It's not a shield it's a banshee's veil that only procs if you're low on HP.

The ability to QSS a Zeds Death Mark was removed. And then they create an item that has the same use but counters AP.

You can still do damage over the shield amount. It also does NOT block attack damage. So it does not negate all damage as you say. It works same as any other shield apart from banshees or edge of night etc. Those block abilities. The way you make it sound its as if they are in an invincible state. They are not. Damage is not negated it is redirected to the shield. Morgana in your sense then is "op because shes the only one other than maw and camille that can block magic damage only!" next up camille is going to be considered op cause shes the only one who can block attack damage only with a shield.

Zeds deathmark magically disappearing is not the same as the damage still being taken but it goes to the shield. The shield only blocks a certain amount. Damage can go OVER that amount. It doesnt nullify it entirely.

Word of advice, keep that zed ultimate being nullified by an item comment for when you talk about Yasuo's wind wall that blocks almost everything that comes his way (since most things are projectiles atm) that includes but not limited to: Sejuani ultimate, Caitlyn ultimate, Q, and E along with all her auto attacks. Ashe's entire kit, etc. You want to talk about bs? He does that even when it is less than .1 seconds from hitting him. Doesnt matter what direction either. For the duration of that wind wall he is completely immune to any and all projectiles and ranged champions unless he leaves its actually fairly thick range. Oh and the real kicker? It protects his entire team from the champions too.

Zed ultimate being nullified by an item fits much better in that arguement. Not still taking the damage, just shielding part of it.

LauchmelderDec 23, 20161 votes

You confirmed what I said with the Zed argument.

And let me rephrase the all damage part: The shield eats every last piece of magic damage. It's impossible to outdamage the shield with the same skill. Syndras ult becomes useless that way, as well as a lot of other AP burst mages' ults.

Big LincolnDec 23, 20161 votes

Garen is countered by this item more than he should be

Silly NeekoDec 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=MadKnife IV,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n6wONsQE,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2016-12-23T02:53:38.037+0000)

You confirmed what I said with the Zed argument.

And let me rephrase the all damage part: The shield eats every last piece of magic damage. It's impossible to outdamage the shield with the same skill. Syndras ult becomes useless that way, as well as a lot of other AP burst mages' ults.

You mean the ults that normally do 1000 damage but are reduced to 300 or so via magic resist and the shield that is not all damage blocked by it? Im sorry your attempt to one hit ko everyone failed. Perhaps in your next 600+ damage poke available within 2-8 seconds will kill them.

Variks the LoyalDec 22, 20163 votes

Because it's temporary.

ChaddyFantomeDec 22, 20163 votes

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Because it's temporary.

and only absorbs magic damage and only activates when you are low on HP, so u have no control of it.

AMYS GRAVEDec 22, 20161 votes

Because that power is windowed and conditional. You're counting the magic damage shield as having the save value as a full generalist shield, and it isn't persistent. You don't get the gold worth of stats when last hitting minions or doing drag.