Champions that are the best representations of their subclass.

Over Innsmouth··3 votes·1,122 views

So, Ghostcrawler was asked this on his tumblr page, and I thought it was interesting. I wanted to have a go at it myself, and hopefully see what you all would put as your "best representations of subclasses". There'll be bias for sure, so I'll put little justifications where I feel they're necessary.

Here's a link to Ghostcrawlers page if anyone's interested. http://askghostcrawler.tumblr.com/post/155782009488/which-champions-do-you-feel-are-the-best

Marksmen Marksmen: Ashe - I really like the way crit scales on her, giving her what feels like a much fairer power curve than almost every other ADC and making her feel truly deadly in the lategame once she's item'd up. Her supportive qualities also help her team in ways that an ADC who's behind should be able to without providing damage. Fighters Juggernauts: Mordekaiser - Juggernauts to me, are all about little-to-no cc, low mobility speed, and being a monstrous wall of durability and damage. Bugs and outdated design aside, Mordekaiser fulfills this perfectly. Divers: Vi - Current state aside (which is more a product of jg changes, CoC, and Divers being really good in general right now than Vi herself), Vi is great. She's got great upfront damage and engage, backed up by a bit of innate durability, and has just enough sustained damage to remain threatening once she's blown her cooldowns. Mages Battle Mages: Vladimir - what a surprise Vlad brings the threat of high-quality sustained damage and AoE, and little else. His innate longevity with sustain means that he's not going down easily, but as a Battle Mage should, doesnt bring much to a team beyond damage and damage-soaking. Honourary mentions to Karthus and Viktor. Burst Mages: Veigar - Of all the burst mages in the game, Veigar is the least obnoxious to play against. Artillery: Xerath - Using Rite of the Arcane is generally all you need to do to understand why Xerath is the most fantasy-fulfilling Artillery Mage in the game. Slayers Skirmishers: Yasuo - Fragile by design, forced into itemization that provides no defensive stats for at least two items, and heavily reliant on player skill. Yasuo is a frustrating, wind-walling, anime-binging pain in the ass, but the ideal of in-combat mobility and high damage offset by squishiness and a fairly sharp learning curve is well-realized in him. Assassins: Zed - Unless incredibly fed, Zed will generally only be able to assassinate one target before having to blink back out to safety. Outside of that, his play pattern is more telegraphed and has room to react, unlike examples such as Talon, Rengar, and Shaco. Tanks Vanguards: Sion http://st.elohell.net/public/chill/ab528d09ab9e55c7081f13ea1cdaf803.gif Wardens: Braum Controllers Enchanters: Nami Disruptors: Orianna - A constantly moving zone of danger that carries with it the threat to entirely disorient your team and leave you open for engage. Spoon Drawer IDK: Cho'Gath - Cho'Gath has the qualities of a Vanguard, a Disruptor, a Burst Mage, a Battle Mage, and a Juggernaut. Cho'Gath is awesome.

I look forward to seeing what you all think are the best representations of subclasses.

16 Comments

WoonStruck4 votes

A few parts of Ghostcrawler's list don't sit right with me...

Cait?

Janna?

Their entire premise is currently the cancer of bot lane. Let's not even get started on when they're together...


Also, Sion is a juggernaut (last I remember at least), not a vanguard. Someone like Poppy, Skarner (was changed from jug to van), Maokai, etc should be there.

Someone have an explanation of why a few people are referring to Sion as vanguard now?

Over Innsmouth1 votes

Sion's definitely a Vanguard, at least according to their official list - because of his offensive-tank nature. Poppy and Maokai are Wardens, since they're more defensive tanks than offensive.

Cait and Janna are cancerous, but that's not why I disagree with Ghostcrawlers personal listings. Caitlyn's kit warps the game in a way a single Marksman (or Champion) shouldnt, and Janna is half Disruptor (zone control) as she is Enchanter, whereas Nami is (imo) much more fitting of the title Enchanter.

WoonStruck1 votes

Caitlyn's kit warps the game in a way a single Marksman (or Champion) shouldnt

Agreed

Janna is half Disruptor (zone control) as she is Enchanter

I wouldn't say that's why Janna is an issue in his list. I do agree that Nami is a better example of enchanter, though.

Janna's entire premise revolves around making melee/short range champions completely useless. She shuts down champions with gapclosers, but shuts down those without even harder.

Because of this, she too warps the game in a way that no single champion should be able to, especially since there's no effective counterplay to anything in her kit.

######Before anyone suggests it, nobody ever charges up her tornado any time avoiding it wouldn't also be beneficial to her team.

Ahristocats3 votes

marskemen: Twitch enchenters:Nami melee carries aka skirmishers:Yasuo tanks:Chogath juggernauts:Darius assassins: Sona battle mages:Sona

Big Lincoln3 votes

mordekaiser is hands down the absolute worst juggernaut design. he should be the perfect example of what happens when you design a champ with no sticking power, no CC, no ability to make themselves self-sufficient. you get garbage.

Darius is the best and you're reported for thinking otherwise

Dominick Destine3 votes

Juggernauts: Mordekaiser

Ahahahahah, no.

Here is a proper list;

ADC: Vayne

Support: Nami

Mage: Cassiopeia

Tank: Malphite

Juggernaut: Darius

And that's the end of that chapter.... I find it amusing and irritating that people , INCLUDING RIOT, are desperately trying to come up with pretentious new names for subcategories rather than just "Tanky support", oh no no, let's call them guardians or avengers , non-tanky ones can be "Enchanters" /facepalm

PS: Dear Riot, Ghostcrawler sucks.

Penns1 votes

Fizz > Zed m9

Ralanr1 votes

IMO Sion would be the best representation of the Vanguard class if Malphites ult wasn't better (faster, no warning, no need to engage across the map).

Sure Sion's ult has its strengths, but Malphite's is much more reliable. If I didn't find him boring as hell I'd probably abuse it.

Jbels1 votes

{quoted}

IMO Sion would be the best representation of the Vanguard class if Malphites ult wasn't better (faster, no warning, no need to engage across the map).

Sure Sion's ult has its strengths, but Malphite's is much more reliable. If I didn't find him boring as hell I'd probably abuse it.

Malphite's ult also feels more unfair to play against as a result. As far as design itself goes, I think Sion is better. There are way more opportunities in Sion's kit for a good player to take advantage of and outplay. Malphite's kit is a mess of single target, stat sticking and instant AOE nonsense you can't really dodge

Over Innsmouth1 votes

The other issue is that Malphite is basically an ult-bot. His basic abilities are so low impact it's sad.

MohawkBird1 votes

[deleted]

Over Innsmouth1 votes

It is, but there's a very short list of Champions who you can reasonably expect to use it against, given that the class based around high attack speed is ranged and you'll only get on top of them with your ultimate.

Although it is funny watching Mordekaiser hit 0.3 AS because you pressed E and you have Frozen Heart.

TequilaZombie1 votes

Malphite item 3285 item 3165 item 3089 item 3135 item 3030 item 3020

Not when you build him correctly.

Jbels1 votes

Marksmen: Ezreal

Support: Bard

Mage: Ziggs

Tank: Sion

Fighter: Renekton

Skirmisher: Fiora

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

Marksman: Ashe Juggernauts: Darius Divers: Vi Skirmishers: Riven Assassins: Katarina Vanguards: Sejuani Wardens: Braum Enchanters: Lulu Disruptors: Orianna Battlemage Vladimir Artillery: Xerath Burst Mage: Annie Spellsword: N/A

Over Innsmouth1 votes

Spellsword: N/A

I would love a dedicated Spellsword Champion. You could put a case down for Diana, considering she's an AP-scaling, spell-user that's incentivized to use AA's within her combo and stay melee range.

More from Gameplay

More by Over Innsmouth