Zyra and hourglass are fun to play against

5StackUltOneShot··3 votes·1,273 views

IDK, Zyra has item 3151 and item 3116 item 3092 but by the gods she will out damage my entire team with a qwr click and 2 plants. Amazing. If the enemy has an assassin she swaps out item 3116 for item 3157 and amazingly enough only loses 15 ap .

Now, you start trying to focus down Zyra due to her immense (balanced) damage, the 3 damage dealers on your team jump onto her only for BIG BRAIN ZYRA to click R qe and zhonyas. Now your entire team is slowed, taking 50 magic dmg every half a second per plant attacking at double the attackspeed and after a second will be flung into the air which is guaranteed if she hit her root (and probably if she didnt). This is all one champion btw, you still have to deal with the Xerath spamming from 1k range which also has item 3157, make sure to pray for your adc because if Xerath hits 1 Q and an R your ADC is dead for the next 35 seconds.

My point is, these mages are hard enough to gap close onto and once you do they have the ability to just fuck off from existence for 2.5 seconds , in particular ZYRA will still deal her full damage due to plants and ult windup time. Please, just because im not playing Khazix Rengar Fizz Pyke doesnt mean I need to be subjected to this bullshit. Nerf assassins, remove zhonyas and give mages better defensive itemization thats actually interactive

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MiracleMorg943 votes

Looks like some one got their butt kicked and is crying about it.

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Zhonyas is the only defensive item worthy for mages to use, and even then it's been nerfed over and over thanks to AD mains crying about it. We don't need it removed just because you can't play around it. Then assassins would curb stomp the game even more and would not be fair at all.

And what else can they make for mages anyway? AP version of MAW and the new PD? How would that be any better than Zhonyas?

And for pete's sake. Zyra trades off her extreme squishyness for her damage, so abuse that. Her E is slow moving and dodgeable, which really all her skills are very dodgeable. Make her miss and bam she can't do anything.

Zyra is not that big of a deal compared to the likes of the other OP champions in the game. Learn to play around her and you'll find she's quite easy to kill.

5StackUltOneShot1 votes

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Looks like some one got their butt kicked and is crying about it.

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Zhonyas is the only defensive item worthy for mages to use, and even then it's been nerfed over and over thanks to AD mains crying about it. We don't need it removed just because you can't play around it. Then assassins would curb stomp the game even more and would not be fair at all.

And what else can they make for mages anyway? AP version of MAW and the new PD? How would that be any better than Zhonyas?

And for pete's sake. Zyra trades off her extreme squishyness for her damage, so abuse that. Her E is slow moving and dodgeable, which really all her skills are very dodgeable. Make her miss and bam she can't do anything.

Zyra is not that big of a deal compared to the likes of the other OP champions in the game. Learn to play around her and you'll find she's quite easy to kill.

Another mage main that defends their broken items by using the excuse 'waaa but assassins are too strong ;('.

Ill use your excuse, 'Khazix trades off hhis extreme squishiness for his damage, so abuse that. His e is a single line skillshot that is dodgeable and his e practically deals no damage. Dodge these 2 and stay with 1 other person and bam he cant do anything'

??????

Also if your brain kept reading I literally said nerf assassins so we can remove Zhonyas. And yah, an AD version of Maw wouldnt be bad. I was thinking more on the line of a defensive frozen mallet sorta item. Example, 700 hp, 30 armor, 30 AP if your hit slow your attacker by 40% (30% for ranged). This way mages can kite around better. Obviously this isnt the best idea and might be used by tanks but atleast its interactive.

MiracleMorg942 votes

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

I never said assassins were too strong. Nice assumption though.

Kha isn't squishy, but nice try.

As nerfing assassins would be the cure for removing Zhonyas. Hell no.

And that item would just be used for tanks and maybe mages like Cass or Ryze but that's about it. It's also a sorry attempt at a defensive item as well. Mages want more AP than that.

ı Sona ı1 votes

Sooo, wait till skills are on CD and engage? Ward bushes tactically? No face checking?

So said, I tend to ban Zyras anyways.

[sg-miss-fortune]

boricCentaur11 votes

item 3157 is the best offensive armor item in the game and should be nerfed down to the same level as item 3026.

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