Annie NEEDS to be adressed

AlphaKappaPika··2 votes·850 views

Okay, so The first paragraph is going to be a rant, so if you don't want to read my MANY qq's, then go ahead and go to the next paragraph.

Lets talk about Annie! remember how riot nerfed veigar because his stun lacked counterplay? yeah they just dont like veigar, thats the only reason they nerfed him. Cause there is a 0 counterplay B***H JUST AROUND THE FKING CORNER! I mean COME ON, you can say "build magic resist retard" and then she doesnt 1 shot you, but your stuck standing there while she bbq's your arse and the rest of her team anally destroys you, she has a retardedly strong lane pre 6 even though she is supposed to scale super hard into the late game. (which she does) and late game u can build 6 fking spirit visages and this hoe will STILL melt you, may not one shot you but tibbers and the rest of the team will do the rest. you can forget about catching her out too, cause she will just press r q w and all of the sudden ur dead, she may still die but jesus christ she is gonna take one of you with her. ESPECIALLY LATE GAME 

Now that the rants over we can get into intelligent discussion about how to resolve this problem, first off, saying that she has 0 couterplay, is COMPLETELY true. The biggest issue with veigars "e" according to riot is that it was impossible to dodge if the veigar landed it right, WHICH WAS EXTREMELY HARD TO LAND! Annie however, doesn't have a hard to land ult in the slightest. Probably one of the easiest skillshots in the game to land.

What can we do about her ult? well, its pretty simple, it needs to be similar to veigar e change, I would say increase the radius SLIGHTLY, and add a delay where there are flames spewing out the ground and then tibbers jumps out. This will add counterplay and you can actually do something about avoiding her ult.

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ChargeItDownMid2 votes

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Matezoide1 votes

Also, wasnt Veigar reworked because he was seeing play as a Support?

AlphaKappaPika1 votes

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You seem to misunderstand what happened with veiger. Veiger was unviable for 4 seasons despite having an instant stun and very high ratios. Riot reworked him in an attempt to buff him and just missed the boat on his numbers. The intention was never to nerf veiger and he was only nerfed unintentionally because the numbers were off.

Also, league needs annie to stay the way she is. She is not overpowered and her instant stuns help deal with the mobility creep in league. Changing her to have a delay on her stun will only make her stronger against immobile champions and weaker against mobile champions. League needs more instant stuns to stop mobility, not less.

here is the deal, im not saying i want to yasuo e out of annies tibbers, im saying i should be able to flash an ability, the fact that it is instant cast is ridiculous. im fine with the rest of her kit but there needs to be some meaningful counterplay added.

Firancil2 votes

My biggest issue with Annie is the fact that WHEN her stun is up, you have little choice but to play passive, she suffers from the Eve effect, you know when eve was strong and she made everyone have to play passive out of fear of her ganking? Annie has the same problem except it only applies when her stun is up. If you're an ADC you NEED to farm your minions, but if she's 6 and her stun is up she just zones you from everything because you don't want to risk her and the enemy ADC shitting on you and losing lane, god forbid the enemy ADC knows how to freeze lane, your jungler will never be able to gank for you and you won't be able to farm.

What I want Riot to do to Annie is give her passive a drop off time where if she doesn't use it for a stun in like 10 seconds it resets to 0 stacks, but this only happens when it's full so it can't drop off at 3 stacks, BOOM Annie has better counterplay while retaining her bullshit instant cast stuns, and guess what? it doesn't really affect mid lane Annie too much because she's mainly using her Q to farm, thus not using the stun too much on you and since it takes 10 seconds to drop off she can still zone people just for a shorter time.

Ich Bin Lucian 1 votes

Your idea doesn't work considering she would would flash and Flame Thrower first for the stun and then Channel Tibbers especially if its given the E treatment so your idea has no effect on the fact she can insta blow people up infact it would more so crap on her ability to counter play other champions that she uses tibbers for. Honestly the only thing they could do to nerf her Early game is reduce the mana return on her Q by 50% and decrease her AP scaling into late game. But again those functions woould be taking away what makes annie .. well ANNIE .. only advice i can give u is build a Banshee or GA and out play her.

Ch0c0lateJesus1 votes

Because a 5 minute CD flash insta-stun is just as effective as a 40 second CD insta-stun.

Only Play Darius1 votes

I just got carried my last ranked game by an Annie mid. I like her. She's simple, effective, and can carry.

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