Cait needs some tuning in her power levels

Angelofchaos16x··29 votes·1,847 views

Remember when Cait was the premier bully in the early game , horrible in the mid game and come back online during the late ? Now she is just over oppressive in the early game , has a ok mid game (But because of how oppressive her early game is , chances are you are still going to be ahead of the enemy adc) and a really powerfull late game. Why does she get to be powerfull in all stages of the game ? AND WHY ARE THERE TRAPS UNDER MY TURRET , I JUST WANTED TO FARM. Also , getting hit by her E and activating her Headshot is a load of bullshit

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The Deckowner7 votes

The reason cait is disgusting late game is the hurricane change in pre-season 6.

Karhtel1 votes

Vayne Tristana Draven Twitch Jinx will all beat caitlyn late game

Whammer6 votes

If you hate caitlyn as I do, then I have the answer for you! Simply play sivir. You can eat up her traps for mana nom nom nom and you have near instaneous wave clear past lvl 9 so she can never seige your tower!

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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If you hate caitlyn as I do, then I have the answer for you! Simply play sivir. You can eat up her traps for mana nom nom nom and you have near instaneous wave clear past lvl 9 so she can never seige your tower!

Will try sounds fun. I used to love playing Sivir but I find she takes to long to scale.

Tychusfindlay9195 votes

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Will try sounds fun. I used to love playing Sivir but I find she takes to long to scale.

It's just that her boomerang took a smack to the face by the nerf hammer and she's never really recovered since then

Unironic SJW2 votes

Caitlyn doesn't even need to touch the keyboard to crush Sivir in lane, though if Sivir survives early she can rush Shiv and push Cait to the turret without much counterplay.

Theorchero1 votes

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Caitlyn doesn't even need to touch the keyboard to crush Sivir in lane, though if Sivir survives early she can rush Shiv and push Cait to the turret without much counterplay.

And be completely useless in every other scenario.

The Great Divide1 votes

Sivir's ult alone will never allow her to be useless, especially not "useless in every other scenario" (not to mention quick, reasonably safe, AD waveclear is such a precious thing in league)

Angelofchaos16x6 votes

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If you hate caitlyn as I do, then I have the answer for you! Simply play sivir. You can eat up her traps for mana nom nom nom and you have near instaneous wave clear past lvl 9 so she can never seige your tower!

Hmmm , I actually have a pocket pick against Cait too (Tristana) , but my I hate having to be almost forced to pick a champion because another is just outright overtuned. But thanks for the heads up , I'll give her a swirl , and maybe have 2 counter picks

NGNL Asian1 votes

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If you hate caitlyn as I do, then I have the answer for you! Simply play sivir. You can eat up her traps for mana nom nom nom and you have near instaneous wave clear past lvl 9 so she can never seige your tower!

Do you not know the trick where u put down a trap behind the enemy tower so it's basically invisible?

Trash MammaI4 votes

It's because unless you get so far behind that she's 2-3 levels ahead of you and 2 shotting you there is no adc in the game that will lose a 1v1 duel vs her. She gets beaten by just about all of them. Also her kit supporting crit and garbage AS make it really difficult for her to be useful against tanks until really late in the game. She needs IE, Boots, Hurricane (by then you want lifesteal) before she can get any time of anti-tank item. Normally you're reaching the end of the game and she won't be able to get it cause she needs that important survival item such as GA or Scimitar etc.

She's like pantheon. Her early game is stupidly good because her mid-to late game is just so full of counterplay and becomes so horrible that you have to go against what your kit desires in order to stay relevant. Panth's kit supports damage. Pure damage, but full AD pantheon falls of HARD against anybody with 2-3 armor items

Aimléss2 votes

Her late game isn't horrible and is probably top 5 for adcs, once she hits level 6 and she hasn't killed you, you pretty much have an advantage because her ult provides nothing to the fight and she can't handle any form of all ins. Unless she's snowballing her mid game might be the worst out of any adc, I don't know what these people are talking about. Slow attack speed, no on hit damage effect beside crit shot, and a Q and R that barely does anything in team fights, does not make for a good mid game champion. I don't get it...

NGNL Asian2 votes

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It's because unless you get so far behind that she's 2-3 levels ahead of you and 2 shotting you there is no adc in the game that will lose a 1v1 duel vs her. She gets beaten by just about all of them. Also her kit supporting crit and garbage AS make it really difficult for her to be useful against tanks until really late in the game. She needs IE, Boots, Hurricane (by then you want lifesteal) before she can get any time of anti-tank item. Normally you're reaching the end of the game and she won't be able to get it cause she needs that important survival item such as GA or Scimitar etc.

She's like pantheon. Her early game is stupidly good because her mid-to late game is just so full of counterplay and becomes so horrible that you have to go against what your kit desires in order to stay relevant. Panth's kit supports damage. Pure damage, but full AD pantheon falls of HARD against anybody with 2-3 armor items

why is everyone down voting this... He's perfectly right

ForgiveColour3 votes

Complaining about caitlyn in 2017 LUL

NGNL Asian1 votes

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Complaining about caitlyn in 2017 LUL

Adc mains downvoting u :/. I will upvote u

Grokmir3 votes

imo just nerf traps or let tower target them. Preferably both. I'm fine with everything else she has.

3TWarrior2 votes

making them visible over towers would be good too

Spoofghoul2 votes

Cait needs a trap or 2 shoved up her arse! That's what she needs!

MangelinaJolie2 votes

If she's using her E for a headshot proc then she is giving up her escape to do so. Capitalize on that. It's decision making that is better being present in her kit than not.

Rivuo2 votes

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has a ok mid game

Uhhh.... No her mid game is absolutely horrendous actually. When those ninja tabi + randuins come in play she does near no damage her and jinx are both auto based adcs rather than casters therefore any reduction to autos ( ninja tabi + randuins on crits ) severely impact cait and jinx compared to other adcs.

Your information is wrong.

DaNinad2 votes

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Uhhh.... No her mid game is absolutely horrendous actually. When those ninja tabi + randuins come in play she does near no damage her and jinx are both auto based adcs rather than casters therefore any reduction to autos ( ninja tabi + randuins on crits ) severely impact cait and jinx compared to other adcs.

Your information is wrong.

Cause you know, my core items on twitch are ninja tabi and randuins and warmogs.

NGNL Asian1 votes

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Uhhh.... No her mid game is absolutely horrendous actually. When those ninja tabi + randuins come in play she does near no damage her and jinx are both auto based adcs rather than casters therefore any reduction to autos ( ninja tabi + randuins on crits ) severely impact cait and jinx compared to other adcs.

Your information is wrong.

Then why is it that when I build full tank.

Frozen heart, tabis, spirit visage, randuins omen, ga, and a thornmail and still get deleted by caitlyn but take almost 0 damage from their apc

Rivuo1 votes

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Then why is it that when I build full tank.

Frozen heart, tabis, spirit visage, randuins omen, ga, and a thornmail and still get deleted by caitlyn but take almost 0 damage from their apc

lol..... in what elo are you in because this never happens

NGNL Asian1 votes

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lol..... in what elo are you in because this never happens

Trust me I built those in preseason 6 and I got deleted

Rivuo1 votes

[{quoted}](name=NGNL Asian,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=miljNzr9,comment-id=0008000100000000,timestamp=2017-02-02T04:02:10.743+0000)

Trust me I built those in preseason 6 and I got deleted

Are we in... pre season 6...?

Aimléss1 votes

Silly rabbit, unless she's fed Caitlyn has no mid game. LMAO!!!

h5LYF41Lam1 votes

what most players can not comprehent: unlike other adcs caitlyn has a realy low attack speed and no attack speed buffing abilities. What gives cait her damage are her combos E+Q+AA or AA+E+Q+AA. if youre asking for her damage to be shifted so that she deals less burst damage but has DPS close to that of the other adcs then you're right. But right now this is the meta,the meta we are currently playing is a burst damage meta,caitlyn and jhin some of the most popular adcs. jayce and kennen among the most popular tops. mages and assasins were always bursty no need to talk about midlane. and in the jungle you mostly see heca,vi and lee all of which deal burst damage.

Raiyza1 votes

Its fun to play Cait andplace traps directly in my enemies walk path. Oh so funny. Headshot and take half their half because they dont pay attention.

Chibi Zephyr1 votes

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Remember when Cait was the premier bully in the early game , horrible in the mid game and come back online during the late ? Now she is just over oppressive in the early game , has a ok mid game (But because of how oppressive her early game is , chances are you are still going to be ahead of the enemy adc) and a really powerfull late game. Why does she get to be powerfull in all stages of the game ? AND WHY ARE THERE TRAPS UNDER MY TURRET , I JUST WANTED TO FARM. Also , getting hit by her E and activating her Headshot is a load of bullshit

christ, bitching about cait is such a bandwagon. She's one of the few adcs that actually have a solid "You pick me because you want...." and everyone cries about it. SHOVE THE MINIONS WITH YOUR SPELLS. EAT THE TRAPS WHEN SHE MOVES BACK TO FARM.

Theorchero1 votes

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christ, bitching about cait is such a bandwagon. She's one of the few adcs that actually have a solid "You pick me because you want...." and everyone cries about it. SHOVE THE MINIONS WITH YOUR SPELLS. EAT THE TRAPS WHEN SHE MOVES BACK TO FARM.

And then she walks towards you within the 1.5 seconds that you're snared and you eat a headshot from 1200 range away.

Brain Errör 4041 votes

Why? Is it over 9000?

Daddy Ants1 votes

Only tuning I'd like done to Caitlyn tbh is the range of what she can place her traps and prevent them being placed under enemy turrets.

Why are Jhins traps 750 range and Caitlyn's 800?

also....

Few ways I've found deal with Caitlyn very well.

Varus and MissFortune work very well vs Caitlyn.

item 3814 shield denies Caitlyn's headshot when you get hit by a trap or E with the shield active.

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